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« on: February 27, 2006, 11:31 PM » |
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So far, I like the Schlagwerk and Fat Congas offerings. Quality boxes.
Could you point me in the right direction in terms of other brands or particular models I might consider? I'm leaning towards a stringed cajon (if I can mute the strings when needed).
I play mostly Afro-Cuban, World Fusion, Reggae. Already have traditional bongos, and congas -- hoping to round out my set with the cajon.
Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2006, 08:08 AM » |
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I have a cajon like one here: http://www.cajondg.com/cajon_yaqui_eng.htmVery happy with it. There is a model on there with mechanism to disengage the strings, though I haven't played or seen it. Fat Congas, I played their Bajo cajon, loved the build quality, sound was good but not for me. I haven't seen the flamenco cajon that has two sides one with strings and another without, so that might be your ticket. Oh, I also played Fat Congas little cajon, you know tappered, square ones. It sounded great, loved it. Don't own it , yet. Schlagwerk was on my radar from day one of my search for cajon, all I hear is good things, but very hard to find, only one dealer in US and prices are ...  , it might be cheaper to buy in UK and have it shipped here. I had a site with good prices that shipped to US but can't seem to locate it. I realy want their Yambu cajon to play with congas....  Hope this helps. And on a little side note. You probably don't want to put labels like, "fanatics" or "gurus" if you want alot of people to respond. Before I went to answer, I was like... hm, "I like to play my cajon... am I a fanatic?, nah", "Guru?... I know I am not a guru...", you know what I am saying. I don't mean to speak for all but I am sure alot of guys here would probably go through same thought process... It's almost like if I respond to this thread I proclaim myself a "cajon guru" ...  which I am not... anyway just IMHO... cheers
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2006, 12:37 PM » |
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Fed, thanks for the posting tips . . . my first effort was just too late at night. I like the DG's too.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2006, 09:26 PM » |
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I've got a friend here in Boulder who is now making cajons and has a bit of a small inventory built up. They do not look "home-made" or built in a garage in any way. He's taken dimensions from several of the best cajons including Fat's and used the eye of an expert wood craftsman to put together some really quality instruments. I'm really impressed, and just got one of his quintos - the kind with screws around the edge for raspy high end stuff. It'll be a week, but I could probably post a pic or two.
In the mean-time, you can IM me for his address, or phone #.
Dave
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2006, 12:11 AM » |
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2006, 08:04 AM » |
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the main differences IMHO in cajons is quality of construction ofcourse but also, and it's huge  , is the quality of ply-wood. One of the guys here bought a Meinl cajon, and honestly it's not good, compared to my DG it's like playing on the log. The playing surface on my cajon is 2mm (less then 2/8" I think) but it has 5! plys of wood not filler, non of that luan stuff, so the result is very responsive yet stiff playing surface, in other words awesome You can't just buy that kind of plywood in your hardware store, well not around here anyway, the closest I found was craft store aircraft ply-wood that only came in 12" width and even that wasn't as good since it was only 3 ply and I think it was 1/8", can't remember for sure. Anyway just something to keep in mind. Fat Congas cajons had great ply-wood on them, so obviously that stuff is out there. Windhorse, I am curious what your friend is using on his drums. Please don't take it as an attak or anything I am not trying to knock his drums, since I don't know anything about them. cheers
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2006, 09:21 AM » |
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Fed's absolutely right! Yep, he knew that and managed to find that killer 5 ply somewhere.. Again, his are right up there with the Fat's.. Difference is, you can see some glue lines on the inside of his, and a few spaces in the joints of the corners. On Fats they're completely friggen air tight.. Of course you'll pay for the utmost in quality,,, and btw they deserve every penny.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2006, 09:47 AM » |
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I made my own cajon with the assistance of a Peruvian friend. The neat thing is that he was a student of Alex Acuna, so it became quite an educational experience.
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What should I choose - Moller/Free Stroke; Heel up/down: Zildjian/Sabian; DW/Ludwig; Peart/Gadd? Oh @*$^#&, I should have played guitar!
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2006, 09:32 AM » |
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Thought I'd revive this thread, rather than posting in the VIP classifides, as this is percussion specific.
The friend of mine I spoke of above in this same thread - with some high level wood working experience has been slowly refining his process with constructing cajons and clave. He's generated quite an inventory, so I thought I'd mention this to our list. I can personally vouch for the great construction and attention to detail. It makes a nice option to spend less than you would for a Fat Conga cajon, and still get almost the same quality.
We played a new set of them last weekend at the festival for a late night encore Rumba, and it was spectacular!
I got a new set of clave he made, and they are exceptional! Way more volume and woody mid-tonal "pock" sound than the high pitch "tink" sound of rose-wood.
Anyone who's interested, you can PM me and I'll get you his phone number.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 03:25 PM » |
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I'm the proud owner of Valter Percussion cajon-congas. I have the quinto and tumba and am looking to buy the conga size also. They are light weight, have great tone, are very easy to play and project. I also have Pearl Elite cajon tubes which are also good but are much heavier than the Valter drums. Here's the Valter website: http://www.valterpercussion.com/. Check out the youtube video clips to hear how good they sound.
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2007, 06:14 PM » |
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Does any one have any experience with pearl's tube cajons? Im interested in these, but none of the retailers in my area stock them. I have one of fat congas 'secundo' cajons, and I like that alot. any comparisons sonically?
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2007, 11:44 PM » |
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I bought the set in August. They sound great but they are very heavy. I also don't care so much for the tuning. The smallest one is tuned at about the same pitch as my smallest bongo and is MUCH bigger, so what's the point? (It does have a slightly "wooden" sound which is good.) I thought the nesting, Russian doll-type, concept was good but it puts a lot of stress on the stops in the big tube and on the feet of the small tube.
As I posted above, the Pearls made me appreciate the Valter cajón congas much more. They are much lighter, don't have to be played so hard to get volume, I have found more different sounds on them and they have a much deeper bass. I only wish they nested for transport.
I will probably sell the Pearls and add the "conga" sized cajón-conga to my Valter set.
To answer your main question, the Pearls do sound great however, just the Valters sound better and are more playable.
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