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« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2006, 05:45 PM » |
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Hi jnyman, You do make some very interesting points. I think it depends on the venue. My band was asked to play a company Holiday party and a company picnic and I turned both of them down and told them to hire a DJ. They started telling me what songs they wanted my band to learn. If you want The Freaks Come Out At Night and The Electric Slide then you need a DJ. We have Clubs here that have 3 different bars with live music going in each room. They have much Variety and play dance music between song sets. I am playing a club that has us in the Blues Room but we play Classic Rock and Blues and Original music. People come there to hear live music. I am selective when I take a wedding reception or a dance. They are better off with a DJ. If it is a biker type reception we will be Ok but we probably don't play enough country to give them everything they want. I do however, like playing parties and parties like live music. There are really some bands out here that do play nothing but live dance music but you are right, it takes more players or they are runing tape with the band. I play in a 3 man band. You make more money when you don't have to split it between 6 people but it limits you as to what you can play. Maybe live music is dead in your town but it is kickin here. Nutty
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« Reply #61 on: December 24, 2006, 06:54 PM » |
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hey there Nutty--
I was just commenting on the DJ angle. Sounds like your band has a good grip on where to fit in and have a profitable good time as opposed to where to 'get slaughtered' by an audience that would be better off with a DJ.
Relative to the size of our city, there's lots of live music here, and I get to gig a lot. You mentioned the 'running tape' thing in a band; Yeah... I've played in bands with mini-disc players full of everything... I didn't find it very rewarding... but the checks cashed! :-)
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« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2006, 11:05 AM » |
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...most folks in a bar want to dance and be distracted...
...the DJ does the job BETTER than a band... People don't dance in the bars in my neck of the woods. Maybe in a club, but not a bar. And, in places like Westwood, dancing is ILLEGAL. It's soooooooooo footloose. The DJ is also cheaper and takes up less space. Also less likely to hit a bad note. I've only seen one band out here get people dancing. Video Star plays Friday nights in Burbank in a restaurant/club. Hits of the 80s. Lots of 40 year old women. Great times. The DJ may be replaced by an ipod of the future with software that automatically does a mix based on songs stored in a folder. Ah, the future.
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« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2006, 03:02 PM » |
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Don't know what it is like everywhere else, but along with the stiffer DUI laws there are now very stiff anti-smoking laws in all public places here, including bars and pubs. This keeps some people away, although I personally like not wheezing my way through Smoke On The Water!!  It isn't so much not having people come out to a show around here, but the very limited number of venues. We play the local bar every other weekend, but it is hard for bands to hang in for the long haul without good venues for them.
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« Reply #64 on: December 29, 2006, 03:45 PM » |
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very limited number of venues So do you have to wait for a band to die to get a slot? Limited venues would mean a more captive audience. Have the opposite problem here; WAY too many venues and entertainment options.
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« Reply #65 on: December 29, 2006, 05:05 PM » |
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hahaha....no waiting for death!
I think every band needs someone in it that has a little bit of used car salesman in them. Meaning hussle hussle hussle, talk and be friendly to everyone, get on a good personal level with venue owners/booking people, just be a good overall representative for your band. In our band that happens to be me. I do all the booking and deal with everyone from owners to sound guys, contact new venues and try a sales pitch, etc.
This alone can be a lot of work.
It's the country bands around here that have the best venues and gigs, and the rest of us dogs wrestle for the scraps......but that still beats playen country!!! hahahaha
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« Reply #66 on: December 29, 2006, 08:29 PM » |
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No problem at all here on Okinawa playing live, as my still ringing ears can attest (subject of a whole other thread). Tons of young people who are away from home for the first time with money to burn in their pockets. I could play every weekend if my real job wasn't constantly getting in the way!
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« Reply #67 on: December 31, 2006, 03:27 AM » |
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No problem at all here on Okinawa playing live, as my still ringing ears can attest (subject of a whole other thread). Tons of young people who are away from home for the first time with money to burn in their pockets. I could play every weekend if my real job wasn't constantly getting in the way!
Much like S. Korea.
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« Reply #68 on: December 31, 2006, 09:26 AM » |
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Yes. to some extent.
Because with some bands, you can say you are a fan and don't ever have to go to a show to hear the band play live. They can record a show with 4 people in the room, put it on the web and people can stream without ever showing up.
Improvisational music still has its live fans. That I know for sure. You can't hear a good jam in its BEST form without being there and witnessing it unfold.
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« Reply #69 on: January 01, 2007, 06:45 PM » |
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Yes. to some extent.
Because with some bands, you can say you are a fan and don't ever have to go to a show to hear the band play live. They can record a show with 4 people in the room, put it on the web and people can stream without ever showing up.
Improvisational music still has its live fans. That I know for sure. You can't hear a good jam in its BEST form without being there and witnessing it unfold.
Intersting point of view, considering most jam bands attain and retain their popularity through the use of tape trading or more currently, via Etree's. Have you ever listend to a CD of a Phish show that you went to? The sound quality of the CD is much better than what you're hearing at the arena or festival. While I agree that being at a live show is a great experience, I don't think your getting the best auditory experience.
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