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« on: February 15, 2007, 12:06 PM »

Hi. My band has been going for a while but we're wanting to step it up into the big leagues now, and prepare for gigs.

We currently have no way of making our singer heard at practice. Although this will be catered for at gig venues, we basically need a way of amplifying 1-2 microphones so they can be heard above the guitars and my drums, when we're rehearsing.

What's the best option from a budget and practicality view, do you think? Chances are it'll just be, like I said, for practice and nothing more, so we don't need professional gear.

The guitarists are looking at buying new amplifiers. Can you get amps that you can also use to amplify vocals at the same time as a guitar (as I said we're very new at all this stuff, sorry), or do we need to buy a small PA system for vocals?

Any ideas would be great.

(sorry if this is in the wrong board)
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2007, 12:50 PM »

A PA is pretty much the only way to go. Guitar and bass amps just don't work very well. It'd be nice if there were a good way around this, but you'll probably need a PA.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 03:43 PM »

I agree with chill. Invest in a small PA mixer and a pair of speakers. My band uses the following;


A Soundcraft GigRac 600 and a pair of these SoundTech ST15s;

I liked the sound of these so much I bought 6 of them! I use the other 4 speakers as floor monitors for our main PA rig.
Loud enough to hear the vocals at practice and can even be the main PA at very small gigs. I also use this rig for my church's Sunrise Service. I bring the preacher's wireless mic and hook it all up to one of these;


With THAT rig you can do a live PA ANYWHERE you want! 
We can also use this rig as a seprate monitor rig in situations that require more than we normally use. It's a very versital little system. Sound great, and it's suprisingly affordable!

By the way, the little generator is graciously provided by the radio stations I work for during the church service. It's the most expensive part! About $1000.00! You can get the speakers and GigRac for less than that!
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2007, 08:33 PM »

Actually what you use for rehearsal is functionally monitors. So instead of buying a small PA that may be unusable as a gigging PA, you could buy monitors which you can also use for gigging. That is the solution that louderdb is suggesting.

The cheapest solution I know of is to run vocals and instruments into a mixer and use headphones to monitor instead of buying speakers. IEMs are expensive but a real nice and safe solution.   
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2007, 12:57 AM »

If you guys are short on cash but know someone with woodworking skills, check out www.billfitzmaurice.com

His designs work well and the little Wedgehorns can be built for super cheap.  Their wide dispersion means you could probably get away with only two for practice, and their high efficiency means you can get away with a low power amp like that Gigrac.  I'd prefer to use a used Mackie DFX mixer and a cheap but good used pro amp if money's getting pinched, but the powered head style mixers are convenient.
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2007, 11:48 PM »

The stuff I use is not terribly expensive and we really like it. It works for several different functions and so far has been very affordable, reliable and sounds pretty good. Some of the bands that do double billed shows and use our PA have made positive comments about the monitors. That surprises me because it's where I think our PA is the weakest! It's a neat little club rig/practice PA/monitor rig.


I found a brand new Gigrac for $367.08 online. That's for the 600 watt model. The speakers are about $450.00 for the pair. They've gone up! I got mine for about $175.00 EACH.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2007, 07:52 AM »

The Gigrac is the most cost efficient rig around in its size class.  The Gigrac performance and reliability are unquestionable.   
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2007, 08:39 AM »


Wow, thanks for so many great responses everyone!  Cheesy

I'm going to print off this thread and take it to the band and we'll do some research into what we want to get.

Again, thanks.
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