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After being spoiled the last four years being in a band with a cool basement rehearsal space, I am about to embark on a situation that involves rehearsing at an hourly facility. This means setting up and breaking down for each rehearsal – at least until we locate a more “permanent” rehearsal space.
Anyone else in a similar situation? Any tips on alleviating the burden.
PS: I’m not trying to sound like a whiner. Playing drums is a great gift, but I don’t relish the thought of all the pre- and post-rehearsal time and effort setting up and breaking down my kit – especially on work nights.
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 05:29 PM » |
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Bring as little as you can get away with.
Bring your own rug with tape marks for all of your stands/pedals/throne
Try to not break things down...if you can fit your stands in your gig bag when they're extended to playing height, do it.
I used to do this a couple of years ago when we would practice at a friends house. It's...rough, there's really no way around it.
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 05:30 PM » |
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Either get a second practice set that is small and light or only bring the basic pieces, snare, bass, single tom, hi-hat, and crash/ride cymbal. You'll be amazed how creative you become when your choices are limited. I attended a clinic a long time ago with this guy who had just a similar small set up. He sounded great with all of the off center hits, light touch, heavy touch, and playing all around the cymbal. Now that I remember he didn't use a hi-hat. He was trying to drive home a point about creativity. Ever see one of those street musicians pounding on an upside down 5 gallon dry wall bucket? Bring that to the studio, LOL. Have fun!
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 05:57 PM » |
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ah, interesting. i'm used to the 'hourly rental' type places having the kit there. i'd just echo what everyone else says. less is more. i'd even bag the ride cymbal if you can get by with just the hats. you're not whining; schlepping is one of the ickier sides of drumming that just isn't fun. i used to hire a dude to carry my stuff at gigs. hey, i sweat enough on stage! 
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2007, 06:10 PM » |
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i'd even bag the ride cymbal if you can get by with just the hats. Now that's extreme! Thanks for all the good tips so far!
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2007, 06:36 PM » |
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For rehearsals with my rock band I usually take bass, snare, ride, hats, and throne. The guys in the band are semi-amazed that I can get a full sound with that little gear. To save more weight I usually take a 16" bass drum.
For big band rehearsals I take a full five piece, though. It's just more fun having everything there.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 07:07 PM » |
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It depends if you are the type of drummer who needs to practice what they play on each song, as opposed to just practicing the song. Obviously, some guys are thrown when they play on different set ups. The flipside of that is, some songs require tom parts anyway. So I think its better to take a full kit than make a compromise. Setiing up and packing down is the price we have to pay to play drums.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 07:54 PM » |
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So I think its better to take a full kit than make a compromise. Setting up and packing down is the price we have to pay to play drums.
I totally agree. I just don't see how I could practice effectively without the same drum and cymbal setup I'd be using in a live or studio situation with the band. Like most drummers, I build my drum parts based on my full kit. If I just brought a kick, snare, and hats to practice, I'd be creating new parts on the spot in a live situation with the full kit. And yes, setting up and packing down is the price we have to pay. I guess I just wanted to use the word "schlepping" in a post.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2007, 08:02 PM » |
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I guess I just wanted to use the word "schlepping" in a post.
 I just wanted to add I'm personally OK rehearsing with a smaller kit in some circumstances (kick, sn, hat). Sometimes the other band members need to hear what you are going to play on the gig however.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2007, 08:05 PM » |
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I know a drummer that uses a golf bag flight bag for his stands - he just folds the legs & throws 'em in the bag. He doesn't have to reset stand height when he sets back up.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2007, 09:14 PM » |
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Bring as little as you can get away with. . .
Always! Except for gigs, then you bring spares. . . . Try to not break things down...if you can fit your stands in your gig bag when they're extended to playing height, do it. . .
If you can't do that, use memory locks and some sort of color-code or number system for stand parts. I use colored cable ties to ID stand parts. Nice & clean - not noticable to the audience. No sticky tape residue. I snug them up just above the memory locks so they don't slip off. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2007, 10:06 PM » |
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I use colored cable ties to ID stand parts. Nice & clean - not noticable to the audience. No sticky tape residue. I snug them up just above the memory locks so they don't slip off.
Good tip Dave! Echoing others' comments: Keep it simple and dirty. I have a set of practice hardware that I don't mind abusing; I simply fold-up the legs and roll-up everything in a carpet, rather than breaking down and carefully packing-up. Also, you can usually get-by skipping little things like screwing-down wingnuts on the cymbals... just unfold the stand and lay the cymbal on... takes 20 seconds, tops, to set-up and break-down a cymbal. Any chance of leaving an old, cheap, shell-kit in a corner, so you can just schlep hardware, snare, and cymbals in-and-out?
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2007, 04:35 PM » |
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I remember when I was 16, and I found this great deal on an old Tama Rockstar, 11 pieces, 2 bass drums, 3 roto-toms, 4 mounted toms, 2 floor toms, and my cymbals...good times...and since I was young and dumb, I felt I had to haul the entire thing (minus 1 bd) everytime I was going to jam. (I laugh now, but can you imagine seeing this monster set as part of morning worship team at church?) Anyways, not sure what my point is but after about 3 years of hauling my "dreamset" around, I sold it and got myself a 6 pc premier with a girbralter rack, making set up and tear down easy and I could fit the entire kit in my 89 Mustang...lesson learned though... 
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2007, 04:47 PM » |
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I remember when I was 16, and I found this great deal on an old Tama Rockstar, 11 pieces, 2 bass drums, 3 roto-toms, 4 mounted toms, 2 floor toms, and my cymbals...good times...and since I was young and dumb, I felt I had to haul the entire thing (minus 1 bd) everytime I was going to jam. (I laugh now, but can you imagine seeing this monster set as part of morning worship team at church?) . . . Where was that? Our Lady of "Goes to Eleven"? 
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2007, 05:33 PM » |
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(I laugh now, but can you imagine seeing this monster set as part of morning worship team at church?)
Ohh man. About 5 years ago I was looking for a new, closer to home church. I went to a nearby church that had a contemporary worship style band. The drummer had a 5 piece kit, with extra bongos, mini timbales, and - I'm not kidding - about 12 cymbals not including hi hat. I thoughtPaul Wertico was up there. Until he started playing. Then I was sure it wasn't Wertico.  I'm still mulling over whether to get a small, inexpensive kit with 18" BD,10" and 14" toms - preferably nesting (Whee!). I just can't rationalize the money until more gigs come around that need them. Like many older players, my perspective has changed, and not just because I don't have the energy. It just seems like a smaller set does the job for me most of the time. I may, though, retire my sturdy,steel, transformable cart for one of the much lighter, albeit pricier RocK n' Roll carts(sic?). There about $180 but much lighter. If only cartage were a given for the Joe/Jane drummer.  Jim
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