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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2007, 02:57 PM » |
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Those are just triplets: right hand, left hand, foot, repeat. He gets them really fast. John Bonham did a lot of these.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2007, 03:02 PM » |
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Those are just triplets: right hand, left hand, foot, repeat. He gets them really fast. John Bonham did a lot of these.
Yep. Also check out T.N.U.C. by Grand Funk. Don Brewer uses the lick a lot in the solo. |
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2007, 04:23 PM » |
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I know the R-L-K lick well, and I think it's more than that. It's almost like he's doing doubles on his hands, and combining a R-K-R-K-R-K as a triplet feel. Check out the kids drum video, you can see it a little better.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2007, 05:49 PM » |
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Same lick. R,L, Foot. When played medium, perhaps you hear it as 8th note triplets, R(drum 1),L (drum2), Foot, R,L, Foot... played fast, as Grohl does in the kids vid, it sounds different.... play R&L on one drum + foot, R&L on the next drum + foot... more like 16th note triplets...
sheesh, It'd be easier to show than to type! good luck. And this is a great old lick... Bonham, of course, but Chico Hamilton got a lot of jazz mileage out of it in the sixties, too, amongst zillions of others...
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2007, 09:33 PM » |
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I know the R-L-K lick well, and I think it's more than that. It's almost like he's doing doubles on his hands, and combining a R-K-R-K-R-K as a triplet feel. Check out the kids drum video, you can see it a little better.
It's definitely R-L-K, and he's playing them as 32nd notes. R-K would sound much choppier. |
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2007, 12:52 PM » |
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Exactly what everybody has said. Neil Peart does it in an instructional video called "A Work in Progress". Neil says he first heard Steve Gadd play it in a song. Thats how I learned how to play them it plays the fill in slow motion and you see exactly how the different hits match up with eachother to make it sound so complicated when in actuality they're quite easy. Once I learned how to them I played with it around my set and I've managed to come up with some pretty cool fills.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2007, 01:00 PM » |
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It's a cool fill with lots of applications. Mix it up with groupings of threes and fours in sixteenth notes, sextuplets, and 32nd notes and you've got yourself a nice brew of fills that allow you to be more creative and less derivative.
Also, mix up the stickings. Don't just settle for R L F. Learn all the permutations, like L R F, F R L, F L R, R F L, L F R.
Once you do that, add another tom for groupings of four, or add a diddle to get an extra note. Toss in flams, and see what kind of combos you come up with.
Grohl's doing what I consider to be "Rock and Roll 101" type fill. There are many other applications where you can really take ownership of it!
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