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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2007, 08:00 PM »


OK. I give up again.
But what should the guy starting this topic benefit from our talk?
I vote for Premier, you vote for either or none - so shall we suggest getting a Premier for home, fun and gigs, and a Gretsch for studio work?

Yes, the debate is useless... I put a tick for Premier, that's all.  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2007, 08:06 PM »

OK. I give up again.
But what should the guy starting this topic benefit from our talk?
I vote for Premier, you vote for either or none - so shall we suggest getting a Premier for home, fun and gigs, and a Gretsch for studio work?

I think you are upset because I didn't vote for Premier.  Undecided

My vote is: make up your own mind which brand you prefer.
As I said right at the beginning, there are too many variables to engage in any debate of worth.
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2007, 09:55 PM »

OK. I give up again.
But what should the guy starting this topic benefit from our talk?

There's a good number of working pros here including Chris, and a lot of them endorse a variety of kits. But if you've read any number of threads like this one, you would see they all have the same advise: Use your own ears and make up your own mind. There's no such thing as "better than" when you're describing drum sounds. There's "I like" and "you like" and then there's the one "the producers like," which seems a little silly these days since processing makes all kits sound the same, but that was an entirely different thread. Wink
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2007, 11:17 AM »

About two weeks ago I received a call from the VP of a high end specialty drum maker. He said, "I noticed that you are a Renown Maple artist and I would like to offer you a kit more "be-fitting" to you."  (I'll come back to this)

Last year, I started looking  for drums that I really thought were well made, sounded good and the company seemed to offer straight talk and good support.

At the Pasic Show last year I really turned up the heat on my search and tried several different companies products, most of them for a second or third time. 

I loved the sound of the Gretsch drums.  Although I don't have that sound defined, these drums seemed to fit the sound I was looking for.  They suited ME personally and that is what was most important. 

My good friend, teen age superstar, Eloy Casagrande from Brasil recently selected (and actually got a deal)  Premier because he likes the sound of Premier.  It was HIS personal choice.

As it's turned out for me I have gained support from Gretsch and I'm proud to be a Renown Maple endorser.  Gretsch has been a visible name in our industry for many years.  Earlier in this thread someone mentioned that the Gretsch drums cosmetically were not up to par.  I have a Cherry Burst Renown and it's one of the most beautiful finishes I've ever seen...ofcourse, it's in MY eye's.  Also, it was said that customer support is not the best. I have received nothing but the best in customer support from Kaman across the board. It's been awesome!

Coming back to the top regarding my recent phone call.....I'm not a drum maker.  I'm not a drum tech.  I'm only 16 and honestly find myself very lost when all you guys with all this experience start talking about the techniques of what makes drums sound the way they do..bearing edges etc.  Right now because of my lack of experience with how drums are built etc...I trust two things, my ear and my gut.  I'm not sure when the day will come that I find myself interested in "why" a drum sounds like it does...but I can tell you today if I like the way a drum sounds.

I think the VP thought I would jump at the chance to represent his company.  His company does offer very unique, nice looking drums and it was very flattering that he even picked up the phone and made a call like that to me.  There are many many other artists that are probably more deserving.

The truth is, I would have played Gretsch drums wether I got an endorsement deal or not. I don't think you select drums because a company wants to give them to you. You select drums because they fit you.  I would have gladly purchased a kit out of the store like anyone else if that's what it would have taken to get a Gretsch, "be-fitting or not."

This thread has pretty much all boiled down to the same old thing we get into when comparing heads, cymbals, throne, racks or stands etc....

What's your "personal" preference....


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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2007, 12:13 PM »

I think you are upset because I didn't vote for Premier.  Undecided

Oh no, I'm really sorry if there was anything I said that made you think so - I never meant to say this. (English is not my mother tongue, so I may not always express myself clearly...)
And I started my notes in this topic saying that my dream was a Gretsch kit in the past...

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My vote is: make up your own mind which brand you prefer.
As I said right at the beginning, there are too many variables to engage in any debate of worth.

This is definitely true.
My decision was a Premier kit, which I bought a week ago, so I may vote for Premier, but only for this reason, which is my personal taste at the moment.
(And you helped me a lot with your comments on my problems /cp. other topics/ before I chose what to buy, which I would like to thank you now.)
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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2007, 12:30 PM »

Use your own ears and make up your own mind. There's no such thing as "better than" when you're describing drum sounds. There's "I like" and "you like" and then there's the one "the producers like," which seems a little silly these days since processing makes all kits sound the same...

I agree; this is a clear and clever statement - and after all, we all are talking about the same, and the person that started the thread must decide on one of the two makes himself. Still I hope that my remarks have given a little bit to the conversation anyway.
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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2007, 08:23 PM »

I own both brands, both kits and snares.  Love 'em! I think the ultimate question is whether or not the sound of a kit suits/serves the music you're playing.
My 80's Gretsch have that "darker" sound that I also associate with Sonor from that era.  Both my Genista and my Artist Birch setups remind me of my Yamaha Recording kit somewhat.  They have a different kind of warmth.

I think there are no rules.  Play what speaks to you. For instance, I play in a Beatles tribute band, and although I have a Jazz Fest, I use a '98 Supra(gasp) because I actually get a more Ringo-ish sound from it. Go figure.  To my knowledge, Ringo never used a Supra.

The other thing to consider, if you're buying new, is how customer friendly a given company is.


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