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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2007, 03:21 PM »

Mr. A, explain to me what "well-tuned" means and I might agree with you. Wink
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2007, 05:41 PM »

Mr. A, explain to me what "well-tuned" means and I might agree with you. Wink

Again, it's something you tend to know when you hear it.   Cool
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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2007, 06:21 PM »

I'm not sure you need to know what you want to hear in advance. I think it can be far more powerful to let yourself be surprised by what you hear.
I don’t think that knowing exactly what you want to hear is necessary either.  However, I NOW believe we should be telling them to listen when they test drive a kit.  In my opinion we have an obligation to give a more complete answer when asked rather than waiting for that sound or knowledge to "Bite them in the Seat Meat"!  This does not mean I think we should spoon feed information to anyone.   However we should remind them there are lots of different sounds out there in addition to all the wonderful finishes. 
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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2007, 06:24 PM »

Again, it's something you tend to know when you hear it. 

If someone doesn't know how to tune a drum, or doesn't recognize a drum that is tuned well, then that person debating a switch from one brand of drums to another is an exercise in futility.

To the original poster:  what is it that you don't think you're getting from Pearl drums, and why do you think you can get it from Tama drums?  Why are you considering Tama, specifically, and not any other brand(s)?  That's not to say that one shouldn't consider Tama drums (or Pearl) - but why start out the search by limiting your options?
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2007, 07:14 PM »

I'm not sure you need to know what you want to hear in advance. I think it can be far more powerful to let yourself be surprised by what you hear.

I'm afraid I have to agree.

I see nothing wrong with a completely inexperienced drummer walking into a drumstore with no preconceived ideas (or soounds) at all, playing all the kits and if one kit sounds better than the rest (instinctively), buying it.
The problem we often try to highlight at The Cafe is the influence of branding.
Kids don't go into a drumstore with an open mind, they generally go into a store looking for a kit that mirrors the sound of Lars Ulrich, or Peart or Portnoy. Or even a kit that just looks right.
I also reject this whole idea of having a sound in one's head.
I don't think many players, but the truly advanced ones, can operate on that level.
I certainly can't.
I'm constantly surprised by drums and their sounds, much like Mr A's Camco experience.
I have my own prejudices, favouring older American drums and not particularly liking modern Japanese drums.
However I regularly have to use other people's kits and rental sets. If a new Yamaha kit blows me away, I'm sensible enough to admit it.
BUT, I have to play it in anger and for an extended period to make up my mind.
I couldn't walk into a drum store and tell you which is the best performing kit.
The conditions are too alien for a real road test.
However, auditioning drums in a store is a much better test than asking forumites to choose between two brands.
That's why I (and others) always reject these debates and suggest the poster make up their own mind by getting out there and playing.
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