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« on: April 09, 2007, 08:34 PM »

http://www.bluedevils.org/programs/a/2006/media/video/vf6_360x240.mov

This is from BD's performance last year, during practice. I've always been fascinated by DCI pit crews and how they get those teenagers to perform at a reasonably high level on mallet instruments which I rather doubt they had much proficiency at before joining corps.

This gives you a good idea. I'd say they're playing some medium to advanced stuff there. Not Gary Burton, but a long ways from chicken peckin'.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2007, 09:33 PM »

http://www.vicfirth.com/features/DCI2005/video/BK_bass_ensHQ.mov

And this one just cracks me up. It's the Blue Knights bass line performing their championship bass drum ensemble piece. Not kidding. I wrote bass drum ensemble.

Those kids es muy loco!
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 05:31 PM »

Nice work by the Blue Knights on that one!

I played 4th bass in college..a good bassline is awesome to hear and @$%# fun to be a part of. The most fun a man should have with 4-5 other men!
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2007, 08:31 PM »

http://www.vicfirth.com/features/DCI2005/video/BK_bass_ensHQ.mov

And this one just cracks me up. It's the Blue Knights bass line performing their championship bass drum ensemble piece. Not kidding. I wrote bass drum ensemble.

Those kids es muy loco!

You wrote that?  Sweet!  DCI has changed a bit in the last 20 years.  That's very cool. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 09:52 PM »

You wrote that?  Sweet!  DCI has changed a bit in the last 20 years.  That's very cool. 

Oh wait! hehe. I didn't write the composition. Oddly enough, I knew the instructors for both the Blue Coats and the Blue Knights many years ago, and I swear I heard both corps play a close derivative of one of my old street beats as they marched off the field one year. Funny how some of that stuff gets around. Or maybe it's just all derivative.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2007, 07:59 PM »

"Or maybe it's just all derivative...."

Yep..every street beat in the world is a derivative of "Spyder" Grin

..that doesn't look on the screen the way I meant it. Not a dig at you at all. 
What I meant was that every cadence I hear sounds a bit like something I played way back when.
The level of talent has certainly come up over the years. Before my tenure on bass drum at the university, I played tenors in high school & jr college & was considered pretty decent at the time (this was the mid-late 80's)  but some of the high school age tenor players I hear now just blow me away. 
Basslines have come a good ways too, though I still think some of the stuff we were playing was cool back then...that was when taking the drums off and playing them horizontal was new stuff. 
Man...I miss marching sometimes!
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2007, 09:19 PM »

..that doesn't look on the screen the way I meant it. Not a dig at you at all. 
What I meant was that every cadence I hear sounds a bit like something I played way back when.
The level of talent has certainly come up over the years. Before my tenure on bass drum at the university, I played tenors in high school & jr college & was considered pretty decent at the time (this was the mid-late 80's)  but some of the high school age tenor players I hear now just blow me away. 
Basslines have come a good ways too, though I still think some of the stuff we were playing was cool back then...that was when taking the drums off and playing them horizontal was new stuff. 
Man...I miss marching sometimes!
-Mike

I was a high school student in the mid-80s and what I was playing was considered very advanced -- lots of flam combos, way-off-the-grid phrasings, etc. I was a the king of the hybrids. I won more than a few rudimental contests and had a box full of scholarship offers. I never got to do the DCI thing, but I had invitations from instructors to join their snare line if I could clear my summer obligations (never could). One came as late as May.

I'm convinced if I had to try out for a Top 12 snare line now with my skills then, I would probably play bass. They didn't play a lot of flams and double strokes on bass back then, but they sure do now. The stuff the snare lines play during the show on the field is 100 percent more complicated than 20 years ago, and guys who would've been lead snare back the in mid-80s are at the end of the line now (or in smaller corps). Watched the 2005 solo for Casey Brohard, who's now the BD B-corps drum instructor. I don't know if I could pull that solo off with a year of dedicated practice. It's just insane. Even the 5th place solo had a passage of inverted flam taps and unusual flam combos in 32nd-notes at about 138 that made my head spin.

It makes me wonder how much teaching these real competitive corps are doing these days. I'm beginning to think these kids get all their instruction and experience in B-corps and lesser corps before moving on to BD or Santa Clara or Garfield or Cavaliers or wherever. I read Scott Johnson's message board recently where he was doubting a 17-year-old was likely to make the snare line, that it would take someone with unreal talent to pull it off.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2007, 04:21 AM »


It makes me wonder how much teaching these real competitive corps are doing these days. I'm beginning to think these kids get all their instruction and experience in B-corps and lesser corps before moving on to BD or Santa Clara or Garfield or Cavaliers or wherever. I read Scott Johnson's message board recently where he was doubting a 17-year-old was likely to make the snare line, that it would take someone with unreal talent to pull it off.

My teaching was done with the Division II corps. We would literally take kids off the streets, put sticks in their hands and field a corps. They would march with us for a year, then go off and join BD or Vanguard or Sky. Delucia once told me he admired those of us "in the trenches" who actually did the teaching.

Things have changed considerably since Scott was a 17-year-old marching snare with the Devils!!!
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