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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2007, 02:08 AM »

 Grin Grin Can we get that printed on our snare heads  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2007, 03:56 AM »

The 120v charge I wired into my drum throne usually changes their mind.  Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2007, 06:27 PM »

If someone asked to play my drums while on a gig, the answer is no.  Plain and simple:  It's not their gig.  If it's someone I know and I know their ability, then there's a good chance I'll let them play if we can fit it in.

What grates on me is when some kid thinks he has a right to play my drums just because we're in church.  If someone jumps behind my set without asking I'll quickly and politely ask them to leave.  If they don't, then I'll remove them by force.  Of course, it's a good idea to take your sticks with you when on break.
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2007, 05:54 PM »

The answer is "Can I have a go on your girlfriend/wife?"

Assuming asked by a male to a male ;>)

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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2007, 07:24 PM »

I usually don't just let any Joe Schmoe play my kit.  The last time I was asked, I had my best stuff there and this guy just started heading for them and out of the corner of his mouth said I hope you don't mind and I said yes I do and he finally stopped.  I nicely told him that I don't let my wife sit behind that kit.  If I had my other kit it would be fine but not this one.  I really like to know the person or at least had seen them play before I give them up to anyone.  I have seen open mic night drummers that distroy good equipment playing with baseball bat size sticks and playing them with every ounce of strength that they have in their shoulders.  On another note,  I do see Chris's point of view with the young drummer.  If I let someone play them I just tell them to please be careful with my babies and don't hit them to hard. With the Gadd experience, there was a big room of drummers and it really isn't fair just to let one person play them so I can understand his response.
Just my take on it but either way, I think remaining polite is the right way to go.
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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2007, 11:33 AM »

Conan OBrien did a sketch where an audience member walked on stage and challenged Max Weinberg to a drum battle.  Max said OK then pulled out a gun and shot him.  I understood completely.  When its a jam its alright with me, but on a gig I find it unprofessional.  A band I was in broke our no jammers rule for a famous keyboard player who was in the audience.  And sure enough every wannabe in the place asked if they could go on next.
I usually let beginning drummers try my kit in my basement though.
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2007, 01:38 PM »

Even when I let people I know "have a go" on my kit I get bummed out cause they play too hard- especially my cymbals.  This happened to me Sat. I'm still afraid to open my cymbal case. Roll Eyes but it was my fault.  It was my friend... I should have known.

My bands get used to my playing, the sound gets dialed in accordingly.  There is no point in having guys sit in, no matter how good or crappy they play.  Sometimes it's alright and it happens, but it's not professional.

Some "pros" play extremely hard as well.  No way would I let them play my kit.
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2007, 07:08 PM »

I only sit in with a band by a prior arrangement. I only let persons play on my kit under same circumstances. And I always attach a stipulation that anything damaged by me or him (her) will be paid for by the respective parties to save the chance of bad blood between us. It saves more than a few hassles and makes either party play the drums instead of "banging the drums." I learned my lesson the hard way.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2007, 10:27 PM »

I thought the original post was very funny and certainly covered the hazards of letting someone 'have a go' at your kit.

I've worked in a couple situations where there were 'jam nights' with the band, so I have had many drummers sit in on my equipment. It really wasn't a problem, but I would change out my favorite cymbals with some heavier saucers.

I have several funny memories of jam night. Up in an Alaska bar there was a guy who wanted to play bass and sing, but had to borrow our bass player's guitar. Our bass player was a really big man and had a custom strap that was not adjustable, so the 'jammer' had the bass down almost to his knees while he tried to play and sing. In the middle of the song the boom mic stand swiveled upside down on him so he followed it still singing a foot from the ground..... I about died laughing it was so funny ...

This jam night was a thing this bar required of their bands on Sunday. It was the Rainbird Bar and Grill in Ketichan, circa 1979.
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2007, 01:12 AM »

I've been casually interested in this thread just to see how others feel about the subject but I had a great experience last night that is fitting.  Our church hosted "night of praise" and there was some real "talent" on the stage including Jon Gibson.  We (the church) recent acquired a beautiful new Taye Studio Maple on my recommendation.  Since it was my idea, I feel pretty responsible for the kit although it's not always under my watchful eye like my own kit.  I don't mind when kids want to try it and guest drummers will use it but they are generally experienced so it's no problem.  Generally we are playing light to moderate stuff and nothing bombastic.  So, last night, I'm playing the first hour and a young very talented young drummer is playing the second hour.  I usually bring my own cymbals to put on the kit so we are both using them.  On the last song which is one of Gibsons (I'm in the audience now) they got the place rockin with this fat groove on the song and a guy in the audience comes over to the side of the stage and catches Jon's eyes. I find out later he played/toured with Jon for 15 years.  Jon waves him onto the stage and he takes over on drums as they are jamming.  Wow, the energy level steps up 100%, along with the tempo about 20BPM faster and the volume and this guy starts laying into my the church's kit and my cymbals.  He's a great player, started directing the horn section and calling out things and everyone including me really enjoyed it but I did have a wince or two as he lays into them.  Those Tayes had never been played like that and I think they are still glowing.  Anyway, the kit and my cymbals are fine and everyone had a great time.  After speaking with the drummer briefly it sounded like he really needed to do it also, plus he told me I was a fine drummer which makes it all ok  Grin .  Even if I was inclined to say NO, I wouldn't have been able to do anything with ruining the evening.
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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2007, 07:36 AM »

I usually throw people off by saying "Sure, just be polite!"  That confuses them.  I don't generally let a drunken slob sit behind my kit, but there's not much they could actually do to it, except maybe puke on them.  I don't have a hang-up about people touching my drums...hell they were design to be beaten!  I teach beginning kids...you kinda get desensitized by that. 

I say use better judgement.  Don't be a jerk, but stand your ground.  You never know who it is asking either...could be someone famous.  We have a no-sit-in policy...not set in stone but, if the person is known to be an ample musician...hey could be a blast and I can have another beer on break!

All the arguements are extememly viable.  I have experienced both side of the coin. Being a girl, I get mostly rejections at requests to sit-in, so I quit asking about a million years ago.  I'll give most guys a run for the money, so I'm not too worried about the rejection...hell they are probably jealous Grin  LOL...  No really.  I understand the boundaries of ones drum kit and ego.  I just love to shake things up a bit.  Girls rock!  ~Kat
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2007, 09:59 AM »

One time at this dive bar we were playing someone played on my kit when we had left to eat after sound check. My sticks were a litlte messed up. From that day on I never leave my sticks with the kit in between sound check and show time.
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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2007, 02:31 PM »

Wow, I'm a little surprised that so many people here would just let a total stranger come up and play your kit. 

I don't know, I just think it's kind of disrespectful to ask another drummer (at HIS/HER gig) to play the kit.  It's one thing if it's a little kid, but just some Joe Schmoe from the crowd?  No thanks.

There have been plenty of times where I've been at a bar with a live band and I've been tempted to approach the drummer and ask to sit in, but again...I just think it's a little disrespectful to do with a total stranger.  So I don't even ask.
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2007, 02:54 PM »

It used to be common for other jazz drummers to stop by the regular gig I had and sit in on a tune, but I knew them well. One of them was even left-handed, and he would re-arrange my stuff (he was careful and swift, always taking care to put it back properly).

One time the touring drummer for a well-known pop singer stopped in and asked if he could play a tune. Evidently he had landed that high-profile gig without ever playing a medium swing! What a mess. Since then I only allow people I know.
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2007, 03:08 PM »

I once had an audience member 'take a go' on his own - without asking.

We had just finished our second set of the evening for a fundraising dinner at a prominent Country Club outside Chicago.  We left the stage and headed into the break room the club provided for us.  A few minutes into break I hear the sound of my drums from the other room.  I ran into the ballroom followed by the rest of the guys to find a drunken club member flailing away on my set.  I appealed to him to stop thrashing my drums and get off the stage.  He responded by hurling a few insults my way - something to the effect of me being hired help and him being "entitled" because he was a club member. 

While I'm arguing with the guy, he continued to pound away.  The band leader went to get the club manager, who, along with a few other guests, eventually talked Thurston Howell off the stage.  Thurston continued to whine about being entitled as he was led off into the manager's office.  The manager apologized.

I came away with dented heads, a cracked stick, and a drink spilled on my throne, drum rug, stick bag and cables.

Granted, this jerk did not ask permission, (he's entitled, you know) but that's why I say 'no' to strangers who do ask if they can 'have a go'.
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2007, 03:16 PM »

sounds like a horrible situation.

an excon fresh out of jail came over to my kit mid song and in his excitement bashed my ride with his fist. its a £200 cymbal so i sworeat him and he then started make non verbal 'i'm gonna cut you' threats throughout the rest of the set. it was quite hard to concentrate just on playing. in the end his mates calmed him down and came and explained his situation to me.

sometimes i want to buy a can of mace and attacj it to my stick bag.

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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2007, 06:02 PM »


sometimes i want to buy a can of mace and attacj it to my stick bag.



Personally, I've got a concealed carry permit and 'pack' at all my nightclub gigs.
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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2007, 06:12 PM »

Personally, I've got a concealed carry permit and 'pack' at all my nightclub gigs.
Bongo, keep your info to yourself and you will be much safer.
I think we have some simularities in our part of the country.
Most people in my part of the country do too.  I would hope that if the Virginia Tech. thing was here, the guy wouldn't have made it past the 2nd Trigger pull. I can't believe with all those healthy college kids, no one tried to take him down.
Sorry, didn't mean to vent, but I would have had to at least try!!
It is better than going down with out a fight. The whole thing sucks!!
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2007, 06:23 PM »

Personally, I've got a concealed carry permit and 'pack' at all my nightclub gigs.

You may want to check.  In most states it is against the law to carry inside a club, even with a concealed carry permit. 
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2007, 06:51 PM »

You may want to check.  In most states it is against the law to carry inside a club, even with a concealed carry permit. 
Not Kentucky,
Only Federal or State buildings. I work for a fortune 500 Co. I would be willing to bet that over 60% of the cars/trucks in the parking lot are armed and I am very thankful for that.  We had a shooter at Standard Gravuer in Louisville a few years back that shot up a bunch of people
he worked with. I don't think he would have made it out of my building alive right now. That is a good thing.  To many woods smart people.
You might be right about schools and colleges though Louis.  I carried a buck knife in my back pocket 30 years ago and so did everyone else.
No one got stabbed and no one got shot back then.  It is a different world now.
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