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« on: March 29, 2007, 06:14 PM » |
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First an apology: I recently posted on here with a link to a lesson on a different site - which goes against the rules of this wonderful forum. I only wish to share some of my drumming ideas - not to promote or steal webcrawlers. Sorry!
Now - on to my next ideas. This pattern is a blend of accented singles and ghostie doubles, which adds up to a head-turning blast!
Ex1:
Play the following as 16th notes - with the right hand accented
R L R R L R L R L R L R R L R L
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Replace each single left hand with a double.
R LL R R LL R LL R LL R LL R R LL R LL
Voila. Use on hihats or snare for a fast sounding pattern that will turn heads. Alternatively voice the right hand strokes around the toms for an interesting solo pattern.
Let me know what you guys think
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 12:14 AM » |
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I'm at work presently but that seems like a good pattern for a fill. Keep the LL on the snare and the R around various toms. Pounded out the rhythm on the table top- its Catchy- I like it.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2007, 04:50 PM » |
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Ex2:
Replace each single left hand with a double.
R LL R R LL R LL R LL R LL R R LL R LL
Voila. Use on hihats or snare for a fast sounding pattern that will turn heads. Alternatively voice the right hand strokes around the toms for an interesting solo pattern.
Let me know what you guys think
You are using straight 16ths for this pattern also?: RLLRRLLRLLRLLRLLRRLLRLL if so should there be one more note? Thanks in advance. |
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2007, 07:49 PM » |
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You are using straight 16ths for this pattern also?:
RLLRRLLRLLRLLRLLRRLLRLL
if so should there be one more note? Thanks in advance.
I think all of the R's have a 16th note value and the L's are double strokes at 32nd note values. If I am correct in my understanding then this would add up to one full 4/4 measure. This seems like a cool pattern. I will check it out on the kit. Thanks oligearing. |
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2007, 12:27 AM » |
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the second one is like an inverted double stroke roll, neat stuff; fun to get those fast  |
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2007, 09:24 AM » |
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You should really take the time to read and implement Bart's lesson on " Expanding Stick Control". After you've spent some time working from this book on one surface, you'll see how far you can take a few basic repetitive patterns and open a whole world of creativity. The sticking and riff you've outlined here is pretty simplistic and fairly common. If you're into this kind of thing, then Stick Control and the subsequent system Bart and others use will really be fun for you. |
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2007, 01:59 PM » |
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He he he. This poor newbie gets piled on everytime he tries and posts. LOL Oli, play some of your ideas in the community solo and then go on to explain what you did. That would be cool. The guys will really dig that. I should probably figure out a few measures of some really back asswards stickings for the solo. Oh I just got a great idea. Never mind  |
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2007, 02:50 PM » |
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You should really take the time to read and implement Bart's lesson on " Expanding Stick Control". After you've spent some time working from this book on one surface, you'll see how far you can take a few basic repetitive patterns and open a whole world of creativity. The sticking and riff you've outlined here is pretty simplistic and fairly common. If you're into this kind of thing, then Stick Control and the subsequent system Bart and others use will really be fun for you. Good idea about Bart's lesson on Stick Control. The funny thing to me, though, is the comment of his idea being simplistic and fairly common. The reason it is funny to me is because so many of you talk about simple being better and how great something simple can sound. I applied it on the kit playing toms with my right hand and the doubles on my left on the snare. It isn't real hard to play unless you are at a high tempo, but I think it sounds pretty cool. |
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2007, 03:12 PM » |
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Good idea about Bart's lesson on Stick Control. The funny thing to me, though, is the comment of his idea being simplistic and fairly common. The reason it is funny to me is because so many of you talk about simple being better and how great something simple can sound. I applied it on the kit playing toms with my right hand and the doubles on my left on the snare. It isn't real hard to play unless you are at a high tempo, but I think it sounds pretty cool.
It wasn't meant to be a negative or funny comment. It is a cool lick, one that I and a great number of other drummers have used over the years. It also happens to be simple, which is why it works so well. I guess the way it was presented by the OP as some new, original head turning idea gave me the idea to refer him to some of the advanced work in this area. I certainly didn't post a lick that comes from the first few pages of one of the oldest and most respected technique books in our field as original. |
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2007, 05:41 PM » |
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It wasn't meant to be a negative or funny comment. It is a cool lick, one that I and a great number of other drummers have used over the years. It also happens to be simple, which is why it works so well.
I guess the way it was presented by the OP as some new, original head turning idea gave me the idea to refer him to some of the advanced work in this area. I certainly didn't post a lick that comes from the first few pages of one of the oldest and most respected technique books in our field as original.
I understand now. I just wanted to make sure that simple doesn't mean it isn't good. I do agree with you that it may have been misrepresented by implying it was new and advanced. Thanks for clarifying your comments. |
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2007, 09:54 AM » |
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Heres an add on to this post.
Single Paradiddle in Triplet form
rLR RLR lLR LRR lRL LRL rRL RLL rLR RLR lLR LRR lRL LRL rRL RLL
accent on the lower case (r,l)
This is an advanced Paradiddle which will require lots of practice.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2007, 05:07 PM » |
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I guess the way it was presented by the OP as some new, original head turning idea gave me the idea to refer him to some of the advanced work in this area. I certainly didn't post a lick that comes from the first few pages of one of the oldest and most respected technique books in our field as original.
I wasn't really suggesting an original idea - but it is head-turning. I'm glad you're all enjoying it! |
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