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« on: June 04, 2007, 10:13 AM » |
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More and more often, I am seeing these showing up at gigs.....  Latin Percussion Compact Conga Bongo SetIs anyone out there using them exclusively? Thoughts? Usually, I see someone with just one as a side conga, and they don't seem to get much use. I've tried them out and they sound pretty good, I thought. They sure would be easy on the back to tote around, not to mention the space saved. Of course, they don't LOOK as satisfying as real congas. But, mic-ed properly, why not? 
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 10:19 AM » |
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Interesting. I never saw those before.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2007, 10:55 AM » |
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a church that i played kit for had just one of these (conga-size) and the latin percussionist always played them with sticks so they sounded a little odd. but i've always wanted to try it and see how how it sounds on a snare drum...anyone know or want to try? 
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 02:26 PM » |
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I've heard the LP version played onstage, even though they were the conga sized they sounded more like bongos, no sustain. Pearl has a new version called travel conga or something like that, they have some great players playing rumba on their website and they sound good, they have a bit of a drum body with a closed bottom. A little more "drum" than the lp version but maybe a little more sound.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2007, 12:12 PM » |
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the lp congas do sound great, however, you won't be able to get any low end out of them because of the lack of a shell. they would make an interesting addition to any drum setup (check out glen kotche sporting one on the latest md).
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2007, 02:48 PM » |
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Keep in mind that these were originally suppose to be for "Practice" not a replacement to real congas.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2007, 10:51 AM » |
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I recently got a chance to play a bit on one while at this year's Afro-Cuban Dance Drum and Song camp in Arcata. One of the students brought one to save space and energy since they had a packed car. The thing is perfect for practicing strokes and working on new rhythms! Great sound on slaps and tones, and the feel of the drum head is much nicer than tapping on a leg or a table top. But, of course there is no bass whatsoever. If you're a learner and need something small for traveling to your next lesson, then it's perfect! This is an overt opinion - but, I would NEVER bring one of these to a gig!
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2007, 04:14 PM » |
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I think the new Pearl ones are better sounding, check their website
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 10:53 AM » |
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(Just joined; my first post here.)
I bought a complete set January including stand and Giovanni "practice" bongos. I sometimes play at parties with just the set and sometimes I complement them with some cajon-congas.
They play very much like regular shelled congas but--like said before--they do not produce the deep bass sound real congas with the same head diameter do. The people who hear me play think they sound like real congas and they are very satisfying that way.
Portability is the main benefit but the rack and stand make the whole set quite heavy.
Right now I'm trying to find the sweet spots in tuning and I'm trying to get rid of ringing and overtones. My friends don't hear the overtones but it bothers me a little.
The bongos--in my opinion--are the best part of the set. They are very portable and have a quick-release wingnut. I often take them with me to parties, to friends and to parks. I think they sound at least as good as "real" bongos with fantastic cutting tones.
I came to this site in hopes of finding out if anyone has tried putting real skin heads on the practice congas and bongos. I wonder if that would make the tone more like real congas?
All in all, the LP set has a very professional feel of quality.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2007, 11:11 AM » |
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thanks for steering me to this thread... I don't hang out in this section much.
So you like your LP compact bongos also? I actually went to the drum shop, played some regular stave bongos- hated them, found the LP compact congo and bought that cause I liked the sound so much.
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2007, 09:22 AM » |
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I do like the bongos more than the congas although I'm starting to appreciate the congas more now that I tuned them more to my liking.
One thing I found this past summer after an all-night rave outdoors was how my old bongos detuned themselves when the morning dew and humidity came (I had forgotten my wrench and they went totally flat; came back when the sun came up). The artificial heads that came with the LPs didn't have that problem.
You'll also find that the synthetic heads tolerate stick banging much more than real skin.
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2007, 11:43 AM » |
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as others noted, except for a lack of bass, the congas pretty much sound like the real thing. i think the bongos are the same.
it's really a matter of getting over the look of the things.
also, they are pretty overpriced, for what they are. not to mention, you gotta buy a stand, too.
but the weight is certainly right for gigging. of course, i dont see giovanni hidalgo using the things, and he endorses them. i saw him in solo concert a few months ago, and he is wild, the best conga player ever. he had a pile of these in boxes on stage, but never laid a finger on one. haha!
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2007, 02:27 PM » |
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of course, i dont see giovanni hidalgo using the things, and he endorses them. i saw him in solo concert a few months ago, and he is wild, the best conga player ever. he had a pile of these in boxes on stage, but never laid a finger on one. haha! Where was that? He is mostly seen in PR playing salsa/rumba or latin jazz gigs with the traditional congero rig, not that more contemporary percussionist kind of setup.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2007, 11:15 PM » |
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Where was that? He is mostly seen in PR playing salsa/rumba or latin jazz gigs with the traditional congero rig, not that more contemporary percussionist kind of setup.
he played a solo gig in hollywood, fla this past summer, courtesy of resurrection drums, a store nearby. he had a full set up of lp gio palladium congas, from the store, including bongos and the djembe. he lives in kissimmee, outside orlando, i believe. so it was not too far away. awesome performance. he used some claves as drumsticks on the congas, also to get sounds out of the heads. ingenious. ive been trying to copy ever since....
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2007, 08:11 AM » |
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he played a solo gig in hollywood, fla this past summer, courtesy of resurrection drums, a store nearby. he had a full set up of lp gio palladium congas, from the store, including bongos and the djembe. he lives in kissimmee, outside orlando, i believe. so it was not too far away.
awesome performance. he used some claves as drumsticks on the congas, also to get sounds out of the heads. ingenious. ive been trying to copy ever since....
Oh, it was a clinic... now I get it  The clave/cowbell beater thing on the tumba is/was widely used for traditional merengues, substituting the tambora when not available. I have Luis Conte's Studio Percussionist video and he used a similar approach on a songo, playing conga and cowbell with a beater with his right hand while the left was on some other stuff. Back on track - sorry for the hijack  I remember when those where released a couple years ago. Tried one at a store and liked the sound, but the lack of body made me hesitate. I was playing percussion on a Compa/Zouk band back then and the gig called for full-bodied drums; so I bought my Matadors instead. But I think they do great for electronic music.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2007, 09:48 AM » |
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...I think they do great for electronic music. I think so too, which is what I've been using them for. I also kinda like the wow effect. I call them my Zen congas or invisible congas. I use Valter Percussion Cajón-congas as a complement and they have really great bass. I've tuned the LPs to fit in.
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