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willle
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« on: June 04, 2007, 12:44 PM »

Hello, it's my first post here.

So the reason I registered here as follows (not that I'd leave to be never seen again after this thread Cheesy):

I got this drum lesson book called Future Sounds by David Garibaldi. Maybe you've heard of it.
So it's in english of course, and I'm Finnish, meaning I don't get everything he's saying in the book - especially some drumming terms et cetera.

There's a section in the beginning of the book that goes like this:

"The following guidelines will help you develop a two sound-level playing.

1. Accents should be played approximately 8"-12" from the playing surface, and non-accents should be played approximately ½" from the playing surface." It continues with 2. and 3., but my question concerns part one, and it's this:

What does the distance from the playing surface mean? I don't get it. The text doesn't point out any specific drum that this section concerns, so I think it concers every drum. But what is the playing surface? And what does it mean to play at a certain distance from the playing surface? What "from"? I need clarification.

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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 01:00 PM »

It simply means that the playing surface can be the drumhead or cymbal (or whatever else you are playing), and can be struck in a number of ways. For unaccented (soft) strokes, you only pick up your drumsticks about half an inch (1/2"). Accented (loud) strokes the drumstick is picked up 8 to 12 inches.

This applies to any drum or cymbal. He's trying to help you with dynamics by giving you a height guideline to follow.

Height + Velocity = Volume

Little taps are played by keeping the drumstick close to the playing surface (aka drumhead). Accents or loud strokes are played by lifting the drumstick so that it comes from 8 to 12 inches above the playing surface (aka drumhead).
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2007, 01:57 PM »

willie:

i think "from" is either "lukien" or "ulos" in your language. i think "lukien" is closer to the meaning.


"from" is used as a "function" word to indicate the starting point of something. so garibaldi is basically saying the distance where your stick is in the air, to where it lands on the drum, should be at a certain height before you hit the drum or cymbal, depending on what sound you want to produce [louder or softer]. and the "playing surface" means the top side of the drum or cymbal. [actually, it can mean the bottom surface, too, but generally speaking, we play the top part of the drum or cymbals, unless we're al foster Grin]

hope that helped.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 03:26 PM »

Thanks guys, that cleared it up. Now I understand what Garibaldi was saying.

smoggrocks:

In most cases, the word 'from' is not translated into Finnish as an independent word, but as an extension to the word that it refers to. "From the playing surface" in Finnish would be simply "Soittopinnasta", where -sta is the extension that 'from' translates to. 'The playing surface' in Finnish is 'soittopinta' but the phrase is not soittopintasta because of conjugation.

So the reason I was confused wasn't because I didn't understand the language, but because of the way the matter was expressed. If you just say "from the playing surface", misconceptions are possible because it could be theoretically to any direction, not just up, which even more confused me to question what the "playing surface" actually is. That's why it would have been much clearer to say something like "Accented strokes should begin 8"-12" above the striking surface...". But then of course one would think, 'what do I do to the stick after the strike', and it's kinda hard to translate the original meaning to cover that too, because there's different strokes.. ok maybe getting a bit carried away and this posting getting too long.

But anyway, thanks for help and good night, we can bury this thread now Cheesy

PS. it's willle with three l's, not willie. So that people don't confuse me to someone Irish Wink
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 02:54 PM »

willlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll e

oops, sorry, my keyboard got stuck!

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thanks for the language lesson! i saw that extension and it felt very strange to me. glad you cleared it up -- and sorry i didn't totally understand you!


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