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Hey guys, first post. While working on my rudiments, I started working over various hybrids. No trouble, and making progress. Then I ran across this beauty: the "Diddle-egg-five". A 15-uplet composed of single double and triple strokes. Ok, can do the technique but how do you make 15 even strokes per beat? Do you just play at 40 bpm?

I understand this is mainly just an exercise to work on even double and triple strokes, but at the same time it opened up the Pandora's box. How do you make sure such goofy x-uplets are even? What do you guys do, to nail the septuplets and 15-uplets, etc.? Just work with a metronome and practice practice practice is the obvious answer (and what I'm currently doing), but is there any other exercises yall do? Is there anything else I can do?


And as a light (sarcastic, rhetorical) aside: what song am I ever gonna be layin' down a groove and thinking "wow, this song needs a 15-uplet fill".



edit: forgot the link,   #5


Also, how do you personally count stuff like this?

who comes up with the names for these things anyway?

Just for clarification:

A combination of a triple stroke and double stroke is sometimes called an "egg-beater".
Hence the "egg" in the middle of the name.

If I learn this, will it make me breakfast, too?

Thanks, Nathan, you're exactly right and I should have caught that.

In that case, my breakdown would be:
Paradiddle diddle
RLRRLL

Egg-Beater
RRRLL

Five Stroke Roll
RRLLR

Another easy breakdown would be 5 triplet groupings, although it is contradictory to the name of the rudiment.

Well I agree and disagree. Let me explain: by nature calling hybrids "rudiments" is a misnomer. Rudiment implies they are the basic building block used to create other stuff. And hybrid means they are combinations of other things, in this case the other rudiments. So how in the f can something that's combined of other things be called a basic building block. It's like calling water it's own element even though it's created by the true elements hydrogen and oxygen. (Make sense? My mind works quicker than my hands sometimes).

But Hybrids can be viewed as exercises. And working on them builds the hell out of your chops. They're more or less just exercises to further one's knowledge of rudiments.

But some hybrids are so practical that their own use will pop up everywhere in one's playing (i.e. cheeses or hertas).


I know I'm all over the place in this post, and sort of arguing semantics, but I'm just trying to explain why I love hybrids and think practicing and mastering them isn't a trivial thing.


Also, you are correct that the 15 figure isn't exactly the most practical usage, and it has nothing to do with rudiments or hybrids on its own. But I just wanted this thread to be about weird-uplets as well as hybids, so I kinda combined them in the title of this thread.

Not standardized. I think wikipedia's article on hybrids explain them better I can. (i.e. Cheeses [flammed drag] are called other things by different groups.)

There's lists of hybrids all over the place just google them. (don't mean to be curt, but I'm about to leave the house, so don't have time to give you a list right at the moment, will post tomorrow if you haven't found them by then).


Also, my personal favorite snare excercise to put all this rudiment practice into work is called flamnambulous, and can be found at this website.

http://www.geocities.com/sdsudrumline/music.htm

Exercise of Blue Knights.


Anyway happy practicing! (I myself have been having a blast trying to learn all these crazy exercises lately).