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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2007, 10:59 PM »

Thank you Bart!

I understand what you're saying. I've already talked with a distributor and one drum company that are willing to work with me. I'm going to talk to another distributor and try a few more drum companies. I've already talked to a cymbal company as well. Of course I'll have Medicine Man drums there as the high end stuff. I'm also going to do consigments and lessons. That's the plan anyway.
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2007, 11:01 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2007, 06:59 AM »

Timekeep69,

I'm with Bart on this. It can be done.  I ran an inhome business that made money and I had to shut down because I couldn't keep up.  I have a good career as a public school teacher and ran the drum thing on the side.  The best thing to do is hook up with your local school districts/music colleges, tell the manufacturers you want to be an educational dealer as well.  I was a Premier educational dealer.  I had no set amout of drumsets to purchase but I could also buy any set I wanted to sell.  I sold 2 sets of marching drums, timpani as well as a drumset.  Talk about making the company happy. I placed $15,000 worth of orders in the little over a year I was with the business.  The stuff was delivered by the company not me. If you PM me I'll give you a couple other companies who would be more then happy to deal with you hassle free.  There are wholesalers who carry things and you won't have to become a "dealer" in the beginning stages until you're ready and have the money.  You can do it.  I was doing it and still would be if I hadn't done so well.      Hang loose,   Jim P
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2007, 11:08 AM »

PM sent Jim.
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2007, 12:01 PM »

I've got to be at church in like 5 minutes, so this is going to be short. Wink

I've been the bug in PJ's ear since I first heard about this, and my apologies to PJ, but I haven't had time to catch you up on all of Bart's excellent wisdom. I think I sent the short notes. Anyway, we'll have to do that lunch with Todd real soon.

To the rest, it's important to note that PJ has four real solid things going for him that most would-be start-up music retailers don't: he's smart and not trying to open an independent mega-store; he's already in the hardware/manufacturing side (successful to boot!); he really, really, really, really loves drums; his first love is to support the local scene. Those things are why I really want PJ to get this off the ground. I hope he makes a bazillion dollars doing it, but I know he knows the primary goal is to make it self-sustaining. He's the kind of person I want to do business with and I'm willing to make the 30-mile drive across town in heavy traffic to do it!

It's an interesting market here. There are four GCs and two Sam Ash's, two large (long time) family-owned music stores, and a tiny scattering of miniature drum shops that seem to come and go with every monsoon breeze. This place is not Nashville or LA. It's not even Branson, Mo. But there's all kinds of seasonal work here in the winter months, and we've been known to be the launching pad for the occasional rock, country, or metal act. There's no shortage of kiddies picking up sticks for the first time around here, and while the school districts tend to short the public arts, parents have come to the rescue and actually made the local music programs some of the strongest in the country.

Sooooo ... the place is just ripe for an expert craftsman like PJ to come along and open a drum shop where kids can grow up and old coots like me can hang out and talk about the old days. Oh, and we'll buy some sticks and stuff while we're there. Wink
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2007, 04:14 PM »

Gaddabout's inside info is even more encouraging. 

TimeKeeper69, you really need to focus on these strengths that have been pointed out.  You also need to focus on the weaknesses which is probably capital.  For example, you may already have a bit of a reputation in a good market which is a great starting point that won't make the business.  You have to leverage that into a very well planned and executed marketing campaign.  This is another part of starting a business that a lot of people neglect.  Your friends, family and folks that know you only goes so far.  How will you get the word out that your shop is THE Place for experti advise, the best products, etc....  Radio, TV, flyers on bulletin boards at every high school, JC, college, club in town?Huh  There are a number of ways to get free advertising through the local papers, news agencies, chambers of commerce, etc...  Also it is very smart to plan a few BIG events around the opening and to do them periodically.  Perhaps you could have a big competition/BBQ, a BIG seminar with free food, get creative and throw some BIG parties.  Getting your shops name out there is going to cost some serious time and money and remember it takes repeated attempts to get people to remember your brand name - "top of the mind awareness" so they think of you before going to their normal default. 

Good luck and we're pulling for you!!

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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2007, 06:53 PM »

Perhaps you could have a big competition/BBQ,
That has me thinking I want to show up and I don't live anywhere close.   Grin
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2007, 10:58 PM »

I plan on advertising in the Phoenix New Times and going to shows, talking to drummers etc. There are 2 or 3 day care centers in the area and I plan on talking ot them about lessons. I'm also going to advertise for bands to put their CDs on consignment, I have no doubt that will bring in people. Tongue
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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2007, 11:18 AM »

Patrick,   PM sent to you this morning regarding companies.  Just wanted to make sure you rec'd it.  Jim
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2007, 01:57 PM »

I got it! Thanks!

I've already talked to Universal. I have an account with them for Medicine Man. I'll check out the other companies and see what I can do.

Thanks for the info! I REALLY appreciate everyone's help!
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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2007, 02:43 PM »

That has me thinking I want to show up and I don't live anywhere close.   Grin

Me too! Someones gotta come up with BBQ over the net. 
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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2007, 02:54 PM »

Don't forget insurance costs - plan on somebody triping over the double bass setup and suing you.

I shouldn't be laughing, but I am.
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« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2007, 05:54 PM »

I shouldn't be laughing, but I am.

The sad thing is that it probably will happen.

Im finalizing the location this week.
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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2007, 06:01 PM »

It's good that you've contacted Universal Percussion. I used them some when I had my drumshop. My main "broker" was Slobeat ... but I don't think they are in business anymore. They really helped a lot with my starting business ... allowing me to get the same kind of discounts with smaller quantities that I would normally only get with very large orders directly from the manufacture. The "broker" idea is great, especially for all your bread & butter type things (ie. drumheads, sticks, etc.). I'm sure things have changed nowadays, especially with the Internet's prominence. All of my drum shop experiences were pre-Internet.
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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2007, 06:30 PM »

Me too! Someones gotta come up with BBQ over the net. 

They have!  Corky's BBQ and it is good too.   Cool
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« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2007, 07:48 PM »

Hey Gaddy and PJ, I'm back in town and available to get together as we previously discussed. I'm glad to see that you're getting some advice here.  As you know, I've gotten a lot of advice here in the last few months about my pending foray into drum building.  Hopefully I'll have a lot to share in the next few months. 



 
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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2007, 08:27 PM »

Does anyone know how Kaman is to work with? It looks like they distribute just about everything.
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2007, 07:18 AM »

I talked to Kaman but they wouldn't sell to me because I didn't have a storefront.  They wanted to actually send a regional rep around and look at the store. Don't know if they still do that or not.  As long as you have the retail space it shouldn't be a problem.  AS far as working with most major companies, the only ones that will let you buy direct are the drum and cymbal companies.  I contacted stick/head manufacturers and they all referred me to their wholesalers.   They will give you a list of them if you call or email them.   Good luck.  Jim P
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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2007, 08:14 AM »

I talked to Kaman but they wouldn't sell to me because I didn't have a storefront.  They wanted to actually send a regional rep around and look at the store. Don't know if they still do that or not.  As long as you have the retail space it shouldn't be a problem. 

Well, this keeps every Tom, Dick and Harry from opening up a mail-order or Internet business, which could really affect the market in a negative way for the existing retailers. The practice of making sure you have a brick & mortar store front has been around for almost 20 years if not longer. When I opened my store up in 1989, I had to show that I was a brick & mortar shop, and not just operating out of my basement or garage.  Cool
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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2007, 08:44 AM »

Actually. I've had more success with the head companies than the drum companies. Evans and Aquarian both said there wouldn't be a problem, they just wanted proof of brick and mortar. As for sticks, KAMAN carries the major companies.

The only drum company that has responded to me is Trick.
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