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« on: August 14, 2007, 05:32 PM »

Okay so i'm a bass player not a drummer but i do have a set and i mess around on it sometimes.  normally when i play i keep the beat with my left hand even though i'm right handed.  my friend who's a drummer said that i should be using my right hand, but he can't really tell me why.  is it just preference or is there some biological balance-thingy-reasoning for that?
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2007, 06:51 PM »

doesnt matter as long as u can keep the time steady and r comfortable
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2007, 06:56 PM »

Actually, leading with your left hand gives you a better range of motion because you can freely move around the kit. You don't have to bring your left arm over the right to do any fills or anything.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2007, 07:02 PM »

Actually, leading with your left hand gives you a better range of motion because you can freely move around the kit. You don't have to bring your left arm over the right to do any fills or anything.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2007, 07:36 PM »

Okay so i'm a bass player not a drummer but i do have a set and i mess around on it sometimes.  normally when i play i keep the beat with my left hand even though i'm right handed.  my friend who's a drummer said that i should be using my right hand, but he can't really tell me why.  is it just preference or is there some biological balance-thingy-reasoning for that?

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2007, 08:09 PM »

Actually, leading with your left hand gives you a better range of motion because you can freely move around the kit. You don't have to bring your left arm over the right to do any fills or anything.
but then again it depends on what piece your keeping time with and where it and everything else is located Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2007, 08:49 PM »

Check out Josh Eppard. He's the former drummer for Coheed and Cambria and plays a righty set with a left hand lead. It's genius in my opinion and I wish I could do it but sadly I cannot. Like the others have said it gives you a free range of motion with little crossover interference. Plus it just looks cool.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2007, 10:56 PM »

I'd suggest that you keep time with both of them, as well as your feet.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2007, 11:19 PM »

As a drum set drummer, you have to keep time with your entire body.  All four limbs need to work in synch with each other.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2007, 06:29 AM »

I'd suggest that you keep time with both of them, as well as your feet.
  unless your trying to say wat dave is saying then all your legs and arms would be playing at the same time your hitting everythingelse. and if u were trying to say wat dave said. its kinda obvious that yoour body has to be in sync
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2007, 09:34 AM »

Well yea, but it's possible to be in a mind set where the other limbs are simply slaves of one. If you can think interdependently then you should say, be able to remove your right hand, stop time keeping with it, but continue to play in time, or say, switch leading hands.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2007, 09:41 AM »

Well yea, but it's possible to be in a mind set where the other limbs are simply slaves of one. If you can think interdependently then you should say, be able to remove your right hand, stop time keeping with it, but continue to play in time, or say, switch leading hands.


It kind of depends on the tune for me.  If the pattern being played has a constant pulse to it (8th notes on the hats or ride, for example) then that could be the foundation on which you lock the other parts.  Some guys build everything off the hi-hat pulse.  For others its all about backbeat.  But it also depends on the song.

If I feel the band wandering on a ballad, I might emphasize the right hand a touch on the ride (or whatever).  If I feel them wandering on a more bombastic tune, I might give them more backbeat with the left hand or more bass drum to pull them back in.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2007, 09:42 AM »

As a drum set drummer, you have to keep time with your entire body.  All four limbs need to work in synch with each other.

Exactly -- if your time is dependent upon you keeping a steady 8th/16th/trip pattern going, you're going to get easily dislodged or off time. Feel the pulse with your entire body -- it'll help with keeping you on time out of fills as well. Plus if you aren't leaning on your right hand to keep ticking away steadily, you are more free to drop a note here and there to great effect.

(That's more just to keep you from making the mistake I did of kind of slaving my body to my right hand -- really messed me up for a long time.)

Traditionally, though, drummers keep a steady pattern going with their dominant hand for the ease of it. Open-handed stuff, etc. is just icing on the cake.
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2007, 07:39 PM »

Maybe I have missed the piont here but to me the most important timepiece to me is your brain whiich needs to interperet the music and stay with the designated tempo. In essence, after that, both hands are technically keeping time.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2007, 09:29 AM »

BOTH! You can have a rock-solid right hand and play the cleanest 8th notes all day long, but if your left-hand can't play 2+4 in the right place, it don't mean squat.

Trying playing ostinatos with both hands and accompanying with both hands.

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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2007, 11:19 AM »

I usually keep time with my left foot.  Either I'm actually playing the hi-hat pedal (when my right hand isn't playing on the hats) or just kind of bouncing my left leg (quarter notes) but not actually playing the hat pedal.

Might not be the fundamental way to do it, but that's just me.  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2007, 11:56 AM »

Sometimes I'll keep time with my left foot on the high hat. When that isn't useful depending upon the song. I'll just pull my foot off and not use it. Our band singer has a problem when I use the floor to keep time. He hears that time and complains that it bothers him. So I've gotten used to just keeping time in my head. Brain power wins again.   Grin
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2007, 12:31 PM »

Sometimes I'll keep time with my left foot on the high hat. When that isn't useful depending upon the song. I'll just pull my foot off and not use it. Our band singer has a problem when I use the floor to keep time. He hears that time and complains that it bothers him. So I've gotten used to just keeping time in my head. Brain power wins again.   Grin
I'm with you on the left foot, even more so as you said sometimes you'll pull your left foot off the hi-hat pedal and not use it.  By that do you mean you still keep time with your left foot, but are pretty much bringing your foot down on the ground at that point?

That's what I do when I need to really move my foot to feel the groove, and when a closing hi-hat sound doesn't fit the music.

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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2007, 02:11 PM »

I'm with you on the left foot, even more so as you said sometimes you'll pull your left foot off the hi-hat pedal and not use it.  By that do you mean you still keep time with your left foot, but are pretty much bringing your foot down on the ground at that point?

That's what I do when I need to really move my foot to feel the groove, and when a closing hi-hat sound doesn't fit the music.


I would just take my foot off the pedal, and thump it on the floor or whatever was there. I didn't listen to it, I just felt it thump. Strangely, the singer would hear it. I think he just wanted something to gripe about, he's just that kind of guy.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2007, 02:14 PM »

I would just take my foot off the pedal, and thump it on the floor or whatever was there. I didn't listen to it, I just felt it thump. Strangely, the singer would hear it. I think he just wanted something to gripe about, he's just that kind of guy.   Roll Eyes
I do the still do the same.

How in the heck is your singer hearing your foot striking the ground over all the drums, cymbals and amps?  Is he hyper-sensitive to seismic vibrations? Wink
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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2007, 10:09 AM »

alright thanks for all input
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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2007, 11:34 AM »

How in the heck is your singer hearing your foot striking the ground over all the drums, cymbals and amps?  Is he hyper-sensitive to seismic vibrations? Wink
I think it's just something in his brain that does that. He is kind of weird....After all, he was in the Marine Band and I was in the Army Band. What's that tell you?   Grin
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