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« on: August 16, 2007, 02:54 PM »

I'm a very new drummer and curious how people learned new beats.  At first I would get a feel for the beat and play but then I realized that reading the music quickly is important if the teach says: "Play this one". So I'm curious do you just feel the beat or do you read/play the musical notation?

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 05:22 PM »

I'm a very new drummer and curious how people learned new beats.  At first I would get a feel for the beat and play but then I realized that reading the music quickly is important if the teach says: "Play this one". So I'm curious do you just feel the beat or do you read/play the musical notation?

Combination. Early on I read and count but after a billion repetitions it becomes internal. I usually look for something similar to something I've played before so I'm learning it as a variation of something I already know. Or I try and shortcut it by figuring out the phrasing, which for me can frequently burn something into memory quickly. To me, it's the difference between reading from a script and capturing the nuance of emotion in the words that comes with practice.

Though, of course, at a high level you should pretty much be able to capture the nuance at first read, but I readily admit my reading skills aren't to that level yet. I'm still in the sounding-stuff-out phase. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 02:11 AM »

Both.
You can learn new beats by listening to drummers on record, then copying what they are playing.
Plus, you can learn to read music and play the drums as written on a part.

Both are essential tools of the successful drummer.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2007, 04:42 PM »

Take a look into Dawn Richardson's Beat books.  You'll have lots of fun, and you'll learn some cool beats.  Then look into Tommy Igoe's DVD.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2007, 05:57 PM »

The Drummer's Bible is good, too.  By Mick Berry and Jason Gianni.  Comes with CDs so you can hear how the beat is supposed to sound as you read the notation.  It covers just about all styles and features something like 400 patterns.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2007, 07:51 PM »

I've been using Tommy Igoe's DVD with good success.  I still use  "A funky primer".  It works for learning a lot of rock beats and has been great for practiceing in all sorts of ways.  It will not help you learn to read music though.  Of course instructors help....especially when you might be learning something incorrectly which has happened to myself.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2007, 08:07 PM »

For whatever it is worth:

I strongly recommend that new players learn how to Read.

Don't think of it like reading for something like piano - it's Much easier.

You can learn to read for drums quickly, and it will give you a lifetime of benefits.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2007, 09:53 PM »

You know it's funny. I've decided to concentrate on the learning beats by following the music/notation. It was like I had to re-learn the beat even though I already learned it through hearing/practice.  But I think in the long run learning by reading the music is key because now I already able to look at a new beat and play through it.

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2007, 10:02 AM »

You know it's funny. I've decided to concentrate on the learning beats by following the music/notation. It was like I had to re-learn the beat even though I already learned it through hearing/practice.  But I think in the long run learning by reading the music is key because now I already able to look at a new beat and play through it.

OB

Very smart of you to learn to read. If you can read, besides being able to learn a beat by hearing it, then you will be ahead of most "drummers" around.

I definitely use both methods for learning a beat. Often, when I hear a beat (or fill), I learn to play it and I also write it out. That way it is very easy to pull it out later and play it even if I haven't played it in a while.
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