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« on: August 20, 2007, 08:22 PM »

I am a right-handed person who has no problem executing a flam that starts with the right stick, but, man, I am really having trouble doing a flam that begins with my left stick  I feel so lame!  Can someone suggest an exercise that can help remedy this?
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2007, 08:29 PM »

Practice only left-handed Flams for awhile.

Position the drumstick with the right stick low, 1 or 2 inches above the playing surface, and the left stick higher, 8+ inches above the playing surface. Drop the sticks at the exact same time. The right stick will hit first and will be softer; the left stick will hit last and will be louder. There's your Flam. Work on controlling the space between the two strokes, but always think of dropping the sticks, resetting your position each time before playing another Flam.

Once you work on this for awhile, your Flams will become more relaxed and even. You can work on speeding them up and alternating Flams.

Bottom line: Go slow and stay relaxed; work on clean sounding Flams.

If you can get with a private instructor, I highly recommend that you do ... even for just a few lessons. Let the teacher help you and teach you to teach yourself.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2007, 08:31 PM »

Usually when you do a flam, especially when you're starting out, you want to have one stick higher than the other. If you want your right hand to hit first, then you put your left hand higher and drop them both at the same speed. Same with the left but the opposite of course. I'm not sure how to explain this without showing it to you but I'll try. Sort of do a galloping motion with your hands going back and forth starting with the opposite hand each time. Start with a right handed lead then a left then right then left and so on until you get comfortable with both. I hope this helps. Please tell me if this confuses you at all.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2007, 08:37 PM »

Thanks to both of you.  I may be just confused on my terminology.  Bart, is what you describe below a left-handed flam?  In a left-handed flam, is the right stick the one that hits first?  In that case, it's the right-handed flam that I am having trouble with.  In any case, the solutions you have both suggested are clear.  Thanks!

Position the drumstick with the right stick low, 1 or 2 inches above the playing surface, and the left stick higher, 8+ inches above the playing surface. Drop the sticks at the exact same time. The right stick will hit first and will be softer; the left stick will hit last and will be louder. There's your Flam. Work on controlling the space between the two strokes, but always think of dropping the sticks, resetting your position each time before playing another Flam.

Once you work on this for awhile, your Flams will become more relaxed and even. You can work on speeding them up and alternating Flams.

Bottom line: Go slow and stay relaxed; work on clean sounding Flams.

If you can get with a private instructor, I highly recommend that you do ... even for just a few lessons. Let the teacher help you and teach you to teach yourself.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2007, 08:50 PM »

Thanks to both of you.  I may be just confused on my terminology.  Bart, is what you describe below a left-handed flam?  In a left-handed flam, is the right stick the one that hits first?  In that case, it's the right-handed flam that I am having trouble with.  In any case, the solutions you have both suggested are clear.  Thanks!

Typically when someone says "right-handed Flam" this would mean the right hand is playing the loud, main stroke; the left hand is playing the grace note.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2007, 08:15 PM »

This is something I really need to work on, regarding more basic technique. Something that is probably related that I can't seem to emulate when trying to play is playing 16ths (or 32nd I guess) fills around the snare and toms and ending the fill on a flam that comes on a following 16th without interruption (hope I'm making sense).

I've only recently acquired Stick Control, and I'm using it to surpass the main issue here presented.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2007, 01:29 AM »

One thing that helps is practice returning your sticks to the "rest" position, which is about a 1/4 inch above the head. This is also where the grace note stroke typically begins.

So much of great drumming is what you do with your limbs when they're not playing. One of the things I worked on as a youngster is NOT preparing for flams. By that, it means not raising the stick level of the grace note and simply dropping it in from the rest position where my sticks were always at when I wasn't playing something. I spent a month on it and haven't thought twice about it since then.

If you have the rest position set and you've worked on at least three varied stick levels, those grace notes in the flams will start dropping in like second nature.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2007, 07:51 AM »

One thing that helps is practice returning your sticks to the "rest" position, which is about a 1/4 inch above the head. This is also where the grace note stroke typically begins.

So much of great drumming is what you do with your limbs when they're not playing. One of the things I worked on as a youngster is NOT preparing for flams. By that, it means not raising the stick level of the grace note and simply dropping it in from the rest position where my sticks were always at when I wasn't playing something. I spent a month on it and haven't thought twice about it since then.

If you have the rest position set and you've worked on at least three varied stick levels, those grace notes in the flams will start dropping in like second nature.

yes, yes, YES!!!
Oh how I wish people would try this and work on it. We've had this discussion before about Flams and the resting position in general. If you are not doing this ... TRY IT ... and very soon you will be playing more relaxed, with more control, and your strokes will flow almost effortlessly.

Those grace notes of the Flam do not need a preparatory stroke, meaning you don't lift, just drop.
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