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« on: August 22, 2007, 05:58 AM »

Hi All,

This is my first post, and it's just to do with independence and the best way to achieve it.

I'm currently studying Kim Plainfield's "Advanced Concepts". It's very hard, and Kim also provides an additional booklet of pages of different notation, such as 16th notation, Quarter and 8th Note notation, triplet notation etc

In the Second Chapter, it deals with developing co-ordination in today's contemporary styles. These include Funk, Linear Funk, Shuffle's, Swing, Samba, Baiao, Tumbao and Afro Cuban Grooves.

In terms of the independence exercises, for example, in the Funk Application. Kim gives 8 hand ostinatos and you play the 16th notation in the bass drum against each ostinato. Or another example is to play the Baiao foot ostinato and play alternating 16th notes in the hands accenting the notes fromthe 16th note notation.

My question is how to achieve this independence. Do you just have to take it painstakingly slow e.g. 60-70 bpm and then build it up to normal tempo ranges, or is there another method. Kim actually provides one idea, but I find it doesn't totally help me and find that I'm still getting frustrated. I appreciate that this is going to probably take me months, but sometimes I feel like giving up because I realise just how unco-ordinated I am. I just need the the perseverence to get through it, but it's just so hard!!

The third chapter (Rhythmical Concepts) looks so interesting and I really want to start it but he says in the book that I have to get through the Contemporary Styles first!! I'll just have to be patient. Though that chapter looks even more solid!!

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Tim
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2007, 06:45 AM »

I would think it's a combo of two things.

1) Play everything slowly at first.
2) Concentrate on the easier exercises and really perfect a smooth performance before moving on.
It is hard work and it does take a long time.
It can take years to build advanced independance. I probably never have.
If you want to get into advanced techniques, it's going to take some time.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2007, 07:54 AM »

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My question is how to achieve this independence. Do you just have to take it painstakingly slow e.g. 60-70 bpm

70 BPM? That's a running pace! Some of my best teachers had me starting at 40BPM. We all want to run ahead and do all the fancy stuff, but there is an important element of discipline to developing any new technique. Difficulty is relative to the person playing the excercise.Take it slowly, use a metronome, count subdivisions, and work on making the notes fall as precisely as possible in time, and make your movements relaxed and economical. 

Then, do it again.

And again.

There are no shortcuts. To use a (very) old metaphor, you shouldn't build a house on sand. Trust me, if you discipline yourself and work on the coordination basics, you'll find that you'll be able to more quickly pick up the advanced stuff when it comes time to move on. Part of learning is, in fact, learning how to learn.

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I appreciate that this is going to probably take me months, but sometimes I feel like giving up because I realise just how unco-ordinated I am. I just need the the perseverence to get through it, but it's just so hard!!

This sentence is so revealing of the conflict going on inside you. You have a desire to do the task. Your brain gets that the task is difficult, but your heart is afraid of unfamiliar territory, afraid that you aren't capable and that you're the most uncoordinated clod in the whole world! (You can't be, I am) Wink Do you see my point? Your fear is like an untamed horse pulling you away from the direction you want to go.

You recognise the solution is perseverance, though. In other words, you already know the answer to your problem. What you need to do is decide each day when you sit down to practice whether you want to let the horses run you around wherever they want, or whether you want to learn the exercises. Everytime they kick and start (you know, when you think "darn it, this is hard, I'm just gonna jam...) you have to coax them back on track. This is a much bigger job than the exercises, but will pay dividends down the line.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 06:11 AM »

Thanks a lot for the replies. I will slow it down, I tried the Baiao slow last night and find that it does work with a bit of dilligence. I also think it maybe good to transcribe on to manuscript paper in certain exercises so I can see how the different parts align and fit together. I do this especially in the swing triplets exercises and the Half Time Shuffle Ostinato exercise.
I suppose there is a bit of an internal conflict but I know that these concepts are giving me the tools to be able to express myself more freely. So I think I'm over that hurdle. I know it is really hard, but I'm going to give it my best shot!!!
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 10:04 AM »

I also think it maybe good to transcribe on to manuscript paper in certain exercises so I can see how the different parts align and fit together.

Yes, it is good. Some people (like me) grasp concepts visually as much as aurally. Use every tool (sense) at your disposal!
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