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« on: August 23, 2007, 10:06 AM » |
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I stumbled across
http://www.youtube.com/v/mHtXWCwlAIg and have never seen this particular trick, which is very cool. I am probably just out of the loop - maybe some of you here use it. At about :16 seconds in he does it and a few other times as well. He seems to do a rimshot, allowing the brush wires to rebound on the head, but gets a really controlled and extended roll from it with one hand. It's really hip!
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 11:32 AM » |
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Mr. Nuclear-- that was fun, but , ummm.... yes it's an old trick. see it at blazing speed at ClaytonCameron.com (among others... there's also a KILLER brush jam at
http://www.youtube.com/v/9RF7E4JnyUo)... brushes are funnnnnn!
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 11:46 AM » |
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I remember when I first saw someone do that---I was blown away.
Since then, I've discovered that it's a trick nearly as old as brushes themselves. It's best with brushes that have rubber handles or a rubber covering on the ferrule, else you'll have a distracting "clack" that is hard to disguise. It can also be done somewhat with the fulcrum on the very beginning of the bristles, if you've plastic or metal handled brushes.
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I'm not a particularly slow player, yet I don't play fast. I play half-fast.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 12:08 PM » |
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Yeah I've seen that Hamilton/Smith jam. Well I guess I need to immerse myself in my brush technique - I use them every time I gig and thought I was fairly competent, but learning is a never ending process, right? Pardon my ignorance... EDIT: Got a chance to sit down and try that and it's quite simple, which I guess everyone knew except me 
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 02:30 PM » |
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Well, while the actual rebound stroke by itself comes somewhat easily to one experienced with sticks, mixing it up in a rhythm or pattern takes a bit of hand independence.
Overall, I find that a good way to get comfortable with brushes is to practice all of the usual patterns at ballad, swing, and jump tempos with either hand---that is, practice riding with the right hand and swirling with the left as usual---then switch, while keeping the same grip (assuming traditional grip), preferably while not stopping the rhythm and maybe just adding a fill to transition if necessary. Sort of like playing rudiments hand to hand. And, as always, start slow and work up to speed.
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I'm not a particularly slow player, yet I don't play fast. I play half-fast.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2007, 07:15 PM » |
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I am not an amateur - I have been playing brushes in jazz combos for years. I just never learned that trick I guess.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2007, 08:56 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2007, 02:38 AM » |
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Wow - that Hamilton/Smith jam was freaking GREAT.
Isn't that just wonderful?
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2007, 08:02 AM » |
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Yeah, you couldn't have said it any better. Amazing!
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The techniques, though they play an important role in the early stage, should not be too restrictive, complex or mechanical. If we cling to them, we will become bound by their limitation. Any technique, however worthy and desirable, becomes a disease when the mind is obsessed with it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2007, 12:05 PM » |
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I am not an amateur - I have been playing brushes in jazz combos for years. I just never learned that trick I guess.
As someone who is currently an amateur (insofar as not receiving money to play), I assure you that I intended no offense. It was a general musing, anyway, directed to anyone passing by. I think I've watched that clip at least five times, BTW. Good stuff.
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I'm not a particularly slow player, yet I don't play fast. I play half-fast.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2007, 05:53 PM » |
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That was cooler than a 
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 08:02 PM » |
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As someone who is currently an amateur (insofar as not receiving money to play), I assure you that I intended no offense. It was a general musing, anyway, directed to anyone passing by.
I think I've watched that clip at least five times, BTW. Good stuff.
Forgive me Joe, I got too defensive there 
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2007, 01:06 AM » |
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I suggest checking out Hamilton on the Diana Krall Live in Paris DVD. He's just a master.
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