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« on: September 03, 2007, 02:12 PM » |
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A question to you fellow drummers who are both working a “regular” 40-hour/week job and playing weekly gigs:
How do you manage to do both and keep a healthy life?
And let's not forget family and friends relationships to take care of.
I haven't really done both on a regular basis but that's where I'm heading, while taking a break from a steady relationship so that I allow myself enough time to play music like I've always been dreaming of.
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2007, 02:28 PM » |
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A question to you fellow drummers who are both working a “regular” 40-hour/week job and playing weekly gigs:
How do you manage to do both and keep a healthy life?
And let's not forget family and friends relationships to take care of.
The family is why I came in from the road. I went back to flying in 1978 and that was the perfect job for playing. I would "time out" my flying hours early in the month and have the rest of the time off to play. I had the best of both worlds. Steady income, time with the family, and time to make music too.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2007, 03:39 PM » |
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Everyone is different but for me family comes first... I'm playing a gig with our band around twice a month and then I play with church around twice a month. The band involves a weekly rehearsal and church involves a rehearsal for the week I'm on. This turns out to be a "gig" every week, sometimes more sometimes less. I also have a small business that keeps me busy. When the kids were small, I simply didn't play drums. We still have a 13 year old at home with a busy school and soccer schedule so mixed together its still busy. My wife and I have to talk about schedule alot and I have to keep things in proper priority. I've not got plans to be a pro drummer and as much as I love it, my first commitment is to family which boils down to keeping the relationship with the wife tight. That takes time so if the drum thing becomes an issue - it takes a back seat. Fortunately for me, my wife is the BEST and we can talk through all this stuff without a lot of drama (some but not alot  )
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2007, 03:48 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2007, 04:21 PM » |
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For me, it is a real balancing act. Two bands, Playing Church, Full time Job and Family raising children. I am about where eardrum is. Family is what I try to put first. Honestly, I am going to have to let one band go, sooner or later. I have been having some thoughts about changing even more about my life now. I am playing with a Blues/Rock band, and a Band that plays more variety,& Church when they need me. I have been flurting with the thought of dropping the club/bar thing and going with a Contemperary Christian Rock band. Somethings aren't always about money. I also get tierd of being up until 5am. Having clubs dictate what time you set up and what you wear. They don't want to pay what I was making off a gig in the late 70's. I am stretched way to far. That is how it is for me. There is a part of me that say's that I don't play music for the money that is why I have a real job and there is part of me that says it is all to much work for the little bit that clubs try to get away with paying. I think the problem is that you will always have bands trying to get started and they will play for peanuts. When you set a price that you will play for, someone will always play for less. This hurts working musicians everywhere  . What a rat race  !! Nutty
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2007, 04:26 PM » |
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... all to much work for the little bit that clubs try to get away with paying. I think the problem is that you will always have bands trying to get started and they will play for peanuts. When you set a price that you will play for, someone will always play for less. This hurts working musicians everywhere  . What a rat race  !! Nutty So true. We have had multiple bars in the area recently vastly lower the pay, because there are a few bands willing to do it for Nothing. It Kills the venue for the rest of us. Playing music is a great joy, but for weekend warriors in my area, the Business side is getting much cruddier, not better.
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2007, 10:52 AM » |
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For the many years that I played 5 nights a week I developed a system that worked great for me. It was my business, I could set my hours....Then after I stopped my personal business and worked a factory it got worse. I had to dictate to the boss when I needed off work early to play a band job. I won....I quit the factory job! Went back to working for myself again. My family was happier because I was happier. Plus I was again able to play more gigs. Once again the family and music came first. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2007, 12:06 PM » |
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Hi ben... about a year ago, I had the same questions you now have. How do you do it?... a 40 hour work week and then devote time to a band, family & friends. I was in awe of many of the members here at the Cafe' that did the weekend warrior (+) route. But you know what, after jumping into it, it's not that tough. I'm fortunate in that the band I am in only plays two or three gigs a month, plus we try to rehearse once a week. It takes some getting used to, but it all works out. Mostly it comes down to budgeting your time, and staying aware of all the balls you have in the air at any given time. If you get overwhelmed, evaluate what's really important to you, and the things that don't make the cut...well, drop 'em. There are times when I feel like I've got just a bit too much going on in my life, but nothing I can't handle... so far. And as stated by others here... it helps to have someone by your side that understands how important playing music is to you. Once i decided to join a band, I think my wife saw how happy it made me, and she was on board very quicky. Peace Del
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2007, 02:41 PM » |
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This has been a recent problem for me. I work as a substitute teacher during the school year (a few classes away from being certified to teach English), and I work at a children's program during the summer.
Both are pretty flexible, but this past spring and summer I've been trying to practice an hour or two myself during the day, attend one to three rehearsals during the week, and play about two shows a week.
It's been great for me. My drumming, bands, and band-related income have all improved, but my girlfriend and family have been feeling the strain of me not having time for them (I've felt it, too).
I suppose this is often the price for pursuing what you love to do. But I'd sure like some advice on how to balance things without trading one for the other.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 03:10 PM » |
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I suppose this is often the price for pursuing what you love to do. But I'd sure like some advice on how to balance things without trading one for the other.
There's no magic. Everything worth doing takes time. I'm sure we can all improve our time management skills, at least I could. But the fact remains that there are only 24 hours, maybe 16 waking hours in the day. You gotta do what you gotta do and sometimes (most times) that's a trade off. If the priorities are clear, the decisions aren't so hard. Really look at where your time goes. Kind of like doing a budget, a calorie intake inventory if you're on diet, etc. Sometimes you'll be surprised how much time you spend doing very unimportant things, e.g., watching the tube, gossip, playing freecell on the pc, whatever. How much more time would you have if you cut those out? There are a lot creative people but creative people with focus are a lot more succesful.
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2007, 03:24 PM » |
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Very interesting comments, everyone.  Keep 'em coming!
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2007, 03:30 PM » |
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I agree. The work, gig, practice balance has been tough for me over the last year, but recently I've managed to find several hours a day to practice. Now I don't have a family but I do maintain a serious, committed relationship. Essentially, it took me making an extremely detailed schedule, with time set asides for rehearsals, practice, gigs and time with friends and family. I also try to stay active on the scene and support other bands, so I kept upcoming shows on the same calendar. I don't stay up with the calendar as much now, but it became scheduled habit, which is much easier to stick to. Oh, and I turned off the cable, and we don't have local broadcast of any strength in NC, so the only options if I was to watch TV are either drum instructional DVDs or the live concert DVDs I collect. It is difficult, but the rewards of staying balanced and focused are good.
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2007, 06:05 PM » |
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I and my band never have more than two gigs a month, and we do gigs only on Saturday or Friday, so this is OK with our daytime jobs. We usually have a rehearsal on Sunday afternoons, but only when we don't have a gig at the weekend. (Then we rehearse at the gig  ) When I go home on weekdays, I usually practise an hour before the evening falls, and I sometimes go home for practising an hour at lunchtime. This is so easy with an amateur band.
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2007, 02:09 PM » |
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the family thing was fairly easy coz i was in a band with my mate, but juggling work was very hard, esp. if i had to work a little later into the eve. it was a real scramble to the gig, and i was pretty flustered. but playing kind of worked out all that tension. it also helped to book gigs closer to the weekend. what i found very challenging was booking gigs. thank heavens for e-mail, coz if i had to make phone calls all day while working, nothing would've gotten done. it's important to keep up a healthy lifestyle and get as much sleep as possible, when possible. but that's not always possible! 
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2007, 01:42 AM » |
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This is a really useful thread. I'm currently a second-year junior college student (equivalent to last year of American high school in these places) and I'm taking a year off next year before entering college, but I've been trying to figure out how I can fit all my hobbies into the time I have. I play drums and guitar (drums more than guitar), I want to shoot air rifle, cycle and take up luthiery and drum-making. Most importantly, I plan on doing film in university and for a career (ha!) so I'll be making short films over the next year and probably for the rest of my life (what a thought...). At the same time, I also want to be a serious musician on both instruments and while touring might be a very long shot, I at least want to play on the big stages in this city.
My thinking right now is that - I'm not a person with discipline, but I can reap a lot of rewards quickly if I focus exclusively on technique right now, so I'm setting aside an hour a day each for drums and guitar where I just do rudiments/scales, coordination and control exercises. Twice a week I'll spend that hour on songs so I don't get bored off my schedule. I don't currently have a band so that's okay, but I definitely will join one soon. This way, I make the most of my time in terms of technical progress and it'll free up time in the long term.
I'm still trying to work out how I can fit everything in my time, so I'll be watching this thread.
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 12:08 PM » |
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I'm still trying to work out how I can fit everything in my time, so I'll be watching this thread.
Wow phantompong! I think we'll be watching you. When you're making your big film, include a scene with the drummercafe! Good luck with everything 
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