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« Reply #80 on: November 28, 2007, 10:25 PM »

I'll make my last comment by noting I lost scholarship opportunities because I flunked out of high school because I spent 5 years obsessing over drums. I remember spending almost every hour of junior English ditching so I could go work out ideas in my head from the morning in one of the school practice rooms. I was probably the only kid who ever ditched and never left campus.

Definitely, school work comes first.
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« Reply #81 on: November 29, 2007, 11:26 AM »

But like there is no law to eat vegetables, most sensible people say it's a good thing to do.

You, sir, are biased. Wink

If anyone needs me, I'll be over here eating hot dogs and listening to this rehearsal CD.
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« Reply #82 on: November 29, 2007, 12:51 PM »

The balance between school work, family, friends and drumming (or what ever your passion is) can be hard to find. 

I can tell you from experience that trying to balance my life is probably the biggest challenge I face.

Since I was old enough to understand english I've heard my Dad say "work at keeping your priorities right."  God first, family second and work at whatever you love and would like to succeed at with ever fiber left in your body.

I travel all around the country with my band and with my Peace Love & Drums show.  The one question I get asked most by both parents and kids alike is..."How do you find time to practice, perform and get school work done?"  Not to mention fun time.

From a time management stand point nothing can take presidence over my school work.  I understand that's just the way it is.  I'm an honors student and will work however hard I need to so that it stays that way. I LOVE DRUMMING TO MUCH TO LET IT BE A REASON TO FAIL AT SCHOOL.

If you sit down and add up all the hours in a week, then day by day start going through the week and determining the things (like school or work) that you must do every day and back those hours out you'll begin to see you have more time than you may think to do things that are important to you.  I go to school about 7 hours a day and sleep about 7 or so hours a day.  That leaves 10 hours of free time to manage.  10 hours!!  Let's say I totally blow 2 or 3 hours fooling around on the phone, with friends or whatever...that still leaves 7 hours.  If I practice 2-3 hours that still leaves another 4 hours for me or family or whatever I decide I need to spend it on.  You sit down and do the math on your personal time with 24 hours a day and I think, like I was, you'll be surprised how much time you have.

Reading a book, reading music, practicing drums or anything else "worthwhile" takes time and dedication to improve.  However you spend those extra 10 hours a day is what you will become good at.  Want to learn to read?  Spend the time.  Want to improve your independence?  Spend the time.  Want to become a couch potato?  Spend the time.

I did read earlier here someone said it's ok if you just want to drum for fun and have no desire to become a pro.  For me, it's all I've ever wanted to do...be a professional musician/drummer, so naturally my mindset needs to be a bit more intense.

Ninja I'm not sure what your goals with drumming are and whatever they are does not make you right or wrong.  They are your goals and if you're happy with them, congrats.

IMHO,reading music is important.  As a musician in an ensemble, following the direction set forth by a conductor is your job.  Between the notation on paper and the leadership of the conductor an ensemble comes together to make beautiful music.  How many hundreds of years has it been done that way?  It's kind of hard to make an "intelligent" argument otherwise.

I think it's great that you've opened up to everyone here at the DC and you've taken some very critical responses to your thread quite well. Although I don't any of the professionals here have swayed your thinking I applaude your ability to take constructive criticism with regards to your views on reading.

Just remember...your mind is like a parachute.  If it's not open....well, I think you know what happens.

Good Luck,

Hannah



Totally awesome, Hannah! Your attitude and wisdom is better than a lot of us "dudes" here...

I'm getting a myspace soon with some video of my playing on it... hope you'll check it out when it's up and let me know what you think!

Blessings Smiley
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« Reply #83 on: November 29, 2007, 04:40 PM »

Totally awesome, Hannah! Your attitude and wisdom is better than a lot of us "dudes" here...

I'm getting a myspace soon with some video of my playing on it... hope you'll check it out when it's up and let me know what you think!

Blessings Smiley

Hey Johnny,

Thank you for the compliment.  Honestly I'm always a little uncomfortable when someone asks me for an opinion of their playing because I feel like I still have so much to learn myself.  LOL

I'll look forward to seeing that video.

Hannah
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« Reply #84 on: November 29, 2007, 04:49 PM »

Hey hook me up with a pm when u get it so I can see em too (if you don't mind Smiley).  

Yeah, I tried the schedule thing... heheh didn't work, though I try to subdivide my time everyday little by little, so as to eliminate my habit of being lazy.

But for the most part... At least drumming took place of my habit of being a couch potatoe and play games and TV all day.

Anyway, yeah I've taken criticism a lot of times throughout my life.  Mostly since I draw and I post my art on the internet and taking any criticism to improve my work, which helped a lot and I get better with all the info. I get from people, from people who don't know a thing about art to the professional artists.  And I'm doing the same on here.  And it does help.

Knowledge never comes from yourself, it isn't like a plant whom feeds itself through the sun and the soil.  It must be obtained through another, and it is ever so hungry.

Whether it comes from paper, a person, tv, or anything, it comes from another person who presents to others in order to pass down information they knew so as to allow the other person to use that information to discover another, and past that down to the next, and etc.  

Kinda like how you would pass down family secrets.

Hey Johnny,

Thank you for the compliment.  Honestly I'm always a little uncomfortable when someone asks me for an opinion of their playing because I feel like I still have so much to learn myself.  LOL

I'll look forward to seeing that video.

Hannah

Hey, don't be shy, no one knows right from wrong unless they are told by somone more mature.

And even if you don't know much, it doesn't mean your opinion doesn't count.  Just tell em from what you know already, and from your own feeling. 

Every penny and nickel is worth every cent.  Even if it takes a million to get to your goal.
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« Reply #85 on: November 29, 2007, 07:13 PM »

Hey hook me up with a pm when u get it so I can see em too (if you don't mind Smiley).

I will! I'm also gonna post in the see/hear you play thread.

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Yeah, I tried the schedule thing... heheh didn't work, though I try to subdivide my time everyday little by little, so as to eliminate my habit of being lazy.

You should really check out Mike Mangini's "Rhythm Knowledge" books. There are two-- Volumes 1 and 2 to be exact.

Really groundbreaking stuff in there... the first book is all about how to practice, manage your time, etc. It also covers the basics of reading...

It would be the perfect book for you right now!
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« Reply #86 on: November 29, 2007, 07:25 PM »

Hey Johnny,

Thank you for the compliment.  Honestly I'm always a little uncomfortable when someone asks me for an opinion of their playing because I feel like I still have so much to learn myself.  LOL

I'll look forward to seeing that video.

Hannah

It's all good Smiley

Sorry if I put you on the spot... just trying to do a bit of networking in Chi-town! But that's great that you're humble. I'll just add you when it's up and you can just say hey or whatever's cool with you!
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