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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2008, 01:27 PM » |
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i think a lot depends more on your attitude than your age. if you think old, you will act old. if all you can report is how it was back in the good old days, no one wants to hear it. are you current in ways other than your age? or are you stuck back in the day when you were young? do you think there is no good music anymore? is your idea of great, maybe, elvis, beatles, stones? not that they were not great, but there have been many more since them with mega talent. do what you can to live in the now, not the yesterday, and your age as a musician may matter less than you think. 
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2008, 01:32 PM » |
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absolutely agree!!
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2008, 04:15 PM » |
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There have been great posts here with good remarks and suggestions, many thanks for them. As for music, I've got no doubts, age really doesn't count. But as regards offstage issues, friendship, etc. I still have the suspicion that people with too much age difference can't get along so well as e.g. those who were mates in the same school. If we put music totally aside, has any of you got any experience of age problems between people that are together for one or another reason?
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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2008, 04:52 PM » |
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If we put music totally aside, has any of you got any experience of age problems between people that are together for one or another reason?
My wife is almost 10 years older than me, and it's still funny to us to see some people's shock when they initially discover our age difference. Many find it impossible to comprehend... I have no idea why. I'm significantly older than anyone in my band, and there are no issues. We don't hang out apart from gigs and practices. That's preferable to me, since I'm just not interested in the same scene that they are.
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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2008, 04:57 PM » |
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..... If we put music totally aside, has any of you got any experience of age problems between people that are together for one or another reason?
Well, I don't typically hang around with people my kids age so the only age difference problems I've experience are 1) with my kids - nothing unusual but it is funny when I hear from my kid that I'm old fashion - hey I still feel like a cool, progressive 25 year old. 25 was quite a while ago  2) at church - our church (about 700 people) has several generations of folks which is great but you can't avoid running into "issues" periodically when there are so many different "perspectives". Issues range from musical preference, to trying to keep kids from trampling the seniors at the donut line, political points of view, etc. When I was asked to join the band I'm now in, the young background vocalist told me that she was surprised at hearing an "older" guy play well. That was awkward but we laughed it off and have a great relationship.
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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2008, 05:09 PM » |
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the young background vocalist told me that she was surprised at hearing an "older" guy play well. That was awkward but we laughed it off and have a great relationship.
There was a young lady who said basically the same thing to me a couple years ago and I told her "Yeah, it surprises me how many young girls have a skewed perspective of age and how it relates to music music!" We have been good friends since. On a side note, I was running sound for a Church today. After services I was playing "Blessed Assurance" by Michael English. It is a really Bluesy version of an old old song. As I was shutting down the system one of the guitar players started playing and i figured why not. For the first time in 14 months I played a little drums. I didn't get carried away but it felt good to be behind the kit again. We had a great time for about 15 minutes then I thought I better quit and see how the shoulder does tonight and tomorrow. Who knows, I may shorten up on the wait to heal more.
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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2008, 05:16 PM » |
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I'm significantly older than anyone in my band, and there are no issues. We don't hang out apart from gigs and practices. That's preferable to me, since I'm just not interested in the same scene that they are.
Yeah, that's it, exactly, I feel and do the same with my present band. And now, that I'm offered to join another band with the same age conditions, I just started to think about all this.
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« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2008, 05:22 PM » |
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Yeah, that's it, exactly, I feel and do the same with my present band. And now, that I'm offered to join another band with the same age conditions, I just started to think about all this.
As long as everybody is cool with the arrangement, it works out just fine. It is proactive of you to think about it, and hopefully the age difference won't be an issue where it really matters, which of course is on the bandstand. There have been instances where I was interested in joining bands, but my age was a barrier.
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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2008, 06:35 PM » |
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest age is not always the best indicator of maturity.
I work at a television station that produces a midday show that often includes live music. We shoot the music in the early in the morning so we can merely cut to top of the best possible performance when the show goes live.
Last month we booked an older group (late 20s, early 30s) and told them to show up at 7 am during the weekday for one hour of set-up and sound check and one hour of shoot. The four of them straggled in between 7:15 and 8. We shot one song instead of two and told them they would never play on our show again.
More recently we had a group made up of a high school senior and his friends, all of them college freshmen. They play every Friday night at a club, but all over them managed to make it to our studios *early* for a 6 am Saturday shoot for a Monday show. They had spent the week perfecting their two songs to time (3 minutes each) so we actually shot a 3rd song they could add to their myspace page for free. They were still out of there before 8 am. One-take wonders.
It's always about personality and chemistry. Age really isn't a huge factor. Age can definitely play a role in the personality and chemistry -- just having different life or career agendas can impact that dramatically -- but age by itself is not something you should be very concerned about.
Go and play with them, work on your own professionalism, and see what happens.
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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2008, 07:05 PM » |
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but age by itself is not something you should be very concerned about.
Exactly, that is why I made my comment that if you do consider age make sure it is musical age or maturity age and not physical age.
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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2008, 07:55 PM » |
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I think a lot the majority of it is down to professionalism.
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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2008, 06:48 PM » |
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age shouldnt matter that much unless you want to make music your life. It also depends on the type of music you want to play and your target audience. Also, would you be comfortable to be your true self with the surroundings and company of younger people?
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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2008, 08:27 AM » |
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Also, would you be comfortable to be your true self with the surroundings and company of younger people?
Good question - quite what I meant to ask when starting the thread, worded in a different, maybe more expressive way. My true self is rather with people of my age, but playing music with these "youngsters" is in fact a great experience. Who is comfortable with what? That ain't easy. 
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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2008, 01:38 PM » |
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Diversity is a wonderful thing, but difficult to achieve due to the human's inherent need to embrace what we are familiar with.
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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2008, 04:26 PM » |
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Diversity is a wonderful thing, but difficult to achieve due to the human's inherent need to embrace what we are familiar with.
I understand this sentence, still I wonder what you mean to say...  Any more down-to-earth consequences??
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