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« on: January 27, 2008, 03:58 PM » |
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Hello everyone,
Does anyone know of any bands that play aggressive double bass metal type of music, Such as Necrophagist, Meshuggah, Slayer, ArchEnemy, only without the intensely negative type of lyrics? Christian lyrics are o.k. with me.
I love the music and the type of drums, but can't stand the lyrics and the vibe they give off. Please understand that I am not preaching or knocking those that do listen to that type of music....
Thanks, happy drumming!
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2008, 04:22 PM » |
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I couldn't even think of any heavy music in those lines. I also can't stand the message those bands try to convey. Good luck in your search.  |
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2008, 04:31 PM » |
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here we go:
living sacrifice, bringing down broadway, as i lay dying, august burns red, extol, the faceless (not sure about this one), common yet forbidden, line dance massacre, MORTAL TREASON!!!!, the blood reckoning, with blood comes cleansing, Alethian, blood has been shed, and killswitch engage. Thats a good start, lemme know what you think. I'm in band with a bass player who is a complete christian metalhead.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2008, 04:54 PM » |
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I'm in band with a bass player who is a complete christian metalhead.
Now that's a first....  |
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2008, 06:04 PM » |
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Thanks, Riot - Doctor! Doctor! Sounds exactly like what I was looking for. Best of luck and success... |
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2008, 07:03 PM » |
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Haha, yes there definately is a christian true metal scene. Another two good ones to add to the list are Dagon (some friends of ours) and Deus envictus.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 10:13 PM » |
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Demon Hunter, Immortal Soul, and if you can find them, Crimson Thorn.
Yes, there is such a thing as Christian Death Metal.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2008, 06:27 AM » |
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I don't know about Christian Death Metal but you said heavy and Creeds X Vocalist
Jeremy Camp is doing some great Heavy Christian Rock and Even Third Day can get heavy at times. Christian Rock can have a bit of everything in it from Jazz to Country to Rock to even Heavy Metal. I like it because it can be so versatile.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2008, 06:00 PM » |
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The other day I answered an ad: 'metal band looking for drummer'. I don't like what I consider metal, but I was curious. And now I'm in a fine "doom metal" band (as they call themselves) playing clear (though quite heavy) rock'n'roll.
So let's not be too much carried away by this metal thing - the root of good music, I think, is always pure rock.
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the root of good music, I think, is always pure rock.
Actually the root of good music is ... good music ... regardless of style or genre. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2008, 07:31 PM » |
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the showdown. they're pretty heavy
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2008, 07:39 PM » |
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Actually the root of good music is ... good music ... regardless of style or genre. And the fertilizer to make good music grow is musicians who have spent a lot of time listening to good music. |
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2008, 09:25 PM » |
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Now that's a first.... Not necessarily. The Christian metal scene is actually quite large, with bands such as Underoath and Norma Jean, and multiple others. I even personally know a kid that's Christian and loves to play metal. It's actually quite a growing scene. There are also straight edge metal bands that promote abstinence from alcohol, drugs and premarital sex.. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2008, 10:17 PM » |
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Here you go--- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_metal_bandsThere used to be a local Christian radio station in town that played Christian hard rock early in the evening and full-on Christian metal overnight. To someone (such as myself) who never boasted a big interest in listening to CCM, it was a novelty for me (and perhaps a few other friends staying up late on the weekends) to tune in for a bit and listen to the music of this large-yet-still-out-of-the-mainstream culture while hanging out. Amy Grant and Rich Mullins it wasn't; we were caught somewhere between admiration and amusement at hearing such a thing. There remains a growing (I think) Christian metal scene in town, it being Oklahoma and all. |
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2008, 10:40 PM » |
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Alot of Christian bands are crossing over into mainstream as well. Demon Hunter, Pillar, Skillet, POD, As I Lay Dying, The Devil Wears Prada, etc
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2008, 11:00 PM » |
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Alot of Christian bands are crossing over into mainstream as well. Demon Hunter, Pillar, Skillet, POD, As I Lay Dying, The Devil Wears Prada, etc
Though I am a bit behind (thanks for the list), I was speaking in the past tense; that is, the late nineties or so when I tuned in. |
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George, your post gave me a chuckle. I recently encountered a conversation about the moniker "doom metal". Some thoughts around the genre are the name is a bit silly but it's easier than saying "like sabbath except slower". Edit: Next time I will use the spell check before I post |
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2008, 05:41 PM » |
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Actually the root of good music is ... good music ... regardless of style or genre. Well, 'rock' or 'rock'n'roll' (cp. a thread called 'Rock and roll' that I posted a few months ago) is a synonym of 'good music' in my dictionary...  And yes, music must always be good, otherwise we could just call it noise. Style and genre may be just something that people talk about when trying to analyze or categorize art. BTW, don't you remember who said 'drumming is the heartbeat of universe'? I vaguely remember seeing this printed on an LP cover in the seventies, or it was said before one of the songs of an LP, and now I wonder where I saw or heard it... ... "like sabbath except slower".
I like this expression, and it's not at all long for me. (Just think of e.g. 'sunny-side-up', which is much longer than 'doom', but more colourful and very expressive. ) Now you taught me what doom is. The other day I looked up heavy metal in Wikipedia and other encyclopedias, and the result was disasterous. They list dozens of sub- and subclasses, starting somewhere like Sabbath, or even Purple and Zep, and somebody even mentions Jethro Tull... Crazy, isn't it. |
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somebody even mentions Jethro Tull... That's almost as bad as when someone, attempting to add derogatory emphasis, describes metal as "acid rock". Acid rock, of course, is psychedelic music that is a bit more heavy, perhaps, but certainly not grinding. I'm also reminded of an otherwise fine pops concert I attended on a field trip while in elementary school, where the conductor kept referring to our apparent taste in heavy metal when most of us listened to R&B and contemporary hits. I'm wondering if there exists a genre of music that lacks a Christian equivalent. |
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I'm wondering if there exists a genre of music that lacks a Christian equivalent.
Hehe...nope. To the OP: You might enjoy the music of Mastodon. I've really been enjoying the "Leviathan" album. It's all inspired by Moby Dick. (Whalecore ) Their followup, Blood Mountain, is also quite good. The songs tend to be more fantastical in nature, rather than hateful. |
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I'm wondering if there exists a genre of music that lacks a Christian equivalent.
Any subject can be put to any type of music. |
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Hehe...nope.
To the OP: You might enjoy the music of Mastodon. I've really been enjoying the "Leviathan" album.
I got to watch Brian Dailor play this music with his guitar player at PASIC. I did enjoy watching him. His music is heavy. He is a drummer with no formal training. Very fast hands but he kept shaking them after every song like he was feeling some discomfort? Yea, Fun music with lots of energy. Nutty |
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I got to watch Brian Dailor play this music with his guitar player at PASIC. I did enjoy watching him. His music is heavy. He is a drummer with no formal training. Very fast hands but he kept shaking them after every song like he was feeling some discomfort? Yea, Fun music with lots of energy.
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My guess is that his compulsion to place his ride at an obscene angle is messing with his wrists.
I would guess that over time he'll figure out a better angle for himself. I done that for a very short time. I figured out what was right for "me"....Took a few hard knocks and hurting wrists to figure that out. |
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My guess is that his compulsion to place his ride at an obscene angle is messing with his wrists. Edit: Found 2006 MDFest footage...He's playing to a track in this one. You can see the ride though.
<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/VVTat27lkmM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/VVTat27lkmM</a>]]>Now wait a minute guys. This is a bit off topic so I will show this and we will get right back on the thread but who says it is the wrong angle? I wouldn't argue with this guy. I also got to see him a PASIC. You find that different things work for different people. http://drummerworld.com/Videos/nduguchanclerpasic1.html. Now, as far as heavy music goes I like "Enter Sand Man even if it is old". I like "Kashmir". We used to call that Metal or Acid Rock or something like that back about 35 years ago. Metal??? That is the question. How about checking out the movie "Heavy Metal". Lot's of the Red Rocker. What is Metal these days? Nutty |
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Moving to the Technique thread in a new topic.
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I don't get it . . . clearly the problem is the music, not the lyrics!
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