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Nono
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« on: December 10, 2002, 02:25 AM »

Dear guys,

I am going to speak english as well as Maurice Chevalier:
What, for you, is the best sitting position ?
High or low ?
Very high or very very very low (like me...)?
And, of course, what are the consequences on your drumming ?

Thanx and cordially!
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2002, 04:37 AM »

They always say to sit in a position where your legs form a 90 degree angle.  I'm fairly tall and have to set my throne to maximum height. I try the lower seating every few months but it never works out.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2002, 07:09 AM »

Well, I have tried high and low and finally settled for comfortable.  I am always trying new setups just to mix things up a bit.  Cool
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2002, 07:47 AM »

I set my Roc-n-Soc Lunar Series to the highest setting.  puts my legs at a little more than a 90 degree angle.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2002, 08:16 AM »

my thighs are just a hair wider than a 90 degree angle from my torso (assuming im sitting up straight  Grin ) with my heels a couple inches forward from my knees.  this is just comfortable for me.  i play heel down usually and when i need to play heel up for some more "oomph"  its still easy and comfortable for me to bounce the ball of my foot.  

when i sit lower (thighs less than 90 degrees from torso) it puts too much strain on my legs to play heel down.

part of this is probably also because i have a desk job by day and the same way i sit at my desk.  all around important ergonomics.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2002, 09:04 AM »

I'd say my throne height is high enough to allow my thighs to be parallel to the floor (or pretty close).  I play heel-up on the kick and heel up or down on the hi-hat, depending on the song.  If I set my throne too low, it puts more stress on my hips.  If I set it too high, I can't get the right "action" out of my kick drum.  

I'm sure there are ergonomic rules for the human body, but at the same time, I know people play differently based on their own experience.  I know Richie Hayward of Little Feat sits really low, it's almost weird to watch him play, but he sure does pretty well.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2002, 09:51 AM »

Whatever makes you comfortable without slumping.

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2002, 08:05 PM »

i like to have my stool a little low so my legs are just under a 90 degree angle and then raise my drums up kinda high so i'm playing more infront of me instead of on top of my kit. it brings a relaxed, fluid feel to my style.
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2002, 08:14 PM »

I sit so my legs form a little more than a 90 degree angle with the floor.  I play heel-down on kick, so I sit just high enough to keep my feet on the floor.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2002, 02:21 AM »

i probably sit pretty high. My legs would be a shade over 90 degrees.
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drumhero
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2002, 02:54 AM »

I can't help right now, as I'm still experimentig with ergonomics.  Sorry. Undecided
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2002, 04:46 AM »

...well, dear friends,

in fact, I was looking for somebody who remarked if the
SOUND-MIX of the kit changes, by sitting higer or lower...
because your EARS are not in the same place !!!
Some days ago, after twenty years playing very higly sit,
I put my chair to a stick-high from the floor...and discovered a new "perception" of all the sounds:
first the bass-drum (the famous "big cash-register"...),
then snare & toms in front of my nose,
and cymbals to the roof!
And of course, earing something else, discovering this new "panoramic set",the way I play is totally different!
(but not like Al Foster, unfortunately...)

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2002, 05:14 AM »

Sorry, simple misunderstanding.  Yes, everytime I change seat height, I notice a difference in the sound mix.  It made me realize that I have alot of inconsistencies in my playing. i.e. rimshots instead of center hits, and the like.  Also, a bit of a side track and slightly off topic, I recorded myself a few days ago with just a snare, hat, ride, and bass, and realized that although my natural timing is better than most, I still have trouble maintaining a steady rhythm.  I am going to start working alot more with my metronome to improve this.*end off topic side track* Grin
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2002, 07:50 AM »

the tops of my tom rims are level with my neck, cymbals as high as my head, snare a little higher than my knee
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2002, 01:50 PM »

listen to how this french guy describes playing...pretty cool.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2002, 01:37 PM »

I want a "panoramic" set... Sad
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2002, 01:02 PM »

I've never noticed that changing stool hight made any difference in the sound of my kit.

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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2002, 01:12 PM »

Stool height wouldn't affect how I perceive how my drums sound, but I know it would affect how I play, in a negative way.
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2002, 01:50 PM »

Actually I'm sitting higher than I ever have.

I've been getting into my twin effects and gajate bracket practicing again and I really have to keep all the weight off of both feet and really balance.  It's easier on my legs if they are "hanging" a little.  I have a lot more control of the foot boards and my legs tire less.

Try it.  I'd rather be too high than too low- then your feet are planted into your pedals.
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