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Had the chance to get a view and a listen to the drumming of a drummer I had never given much thought about, and whew what a surprise. The guy was/is(?) awesome, and very technical for those who appreciate that. The guy I'm refering to is Barriemore Barlow from Jethro Tull. I like a few JT songs but was never a huge fan, so as usual for me, I paid little attention over the years to the drumming or the drummer. I'd heard of Clive Bunker, but not Barlow. Kind of jazzy, rock and etc all mixed into one. I heard 'Conundrum' just last weekend for first time and I am impressed. How do guys like that get under the radar screen of notice so much? Just curious to hear some input on any other drummers from any era who you feel are underrated or appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 02:07 AM » |
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Richie Hayward seldom gets mentioned on drum forums, at least that I've seen. Little Feat =  in my book. My all-time favorite groove of his is on "Fool Yourself" from Dixie Chicken. |
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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 02:15 AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 10:34 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 11:06 AM » |
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I agree on Karen Carpenter, and Richie Hayward too - listen to the Doobie Brothers "Wheels of fortune", with Richie and John Hartman double-drumming.
I don't know whether these are under-appreciated, but they don't seem to get mentioned a lot these days: Keith Knudsen (also the Doobies), Brian Bennet (the Shadows), Stuart Tosh (Pilot, 10cc), John Guerin, Jim Gordon, Gary Mallaber, Bev Bevan (ELO), Roger Hawkins, Roy Markovitz......et c et c
Another songwriter who's also a fine drummer, is Andrew Gold....he played a bit on his own records, as well as some Art Garfunkel material....possibly more...
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 01:15 PM » |
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Dino Danelli from the original Young Rascals inspired me. Karen Carpenter was another one I enjoyed. Many drummers from the 60's era never got the mention they deserved.  |
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 02:17 PM » |
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Eric Carr from the 80s era KISS line-up is someone I've always sat back and appreciated for his sheer power. But along with the other members of KISS, he's never really appreciated as a musician.
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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2008, 08:23 PM » |
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Dino Danelli;had forgotten about him. See how that happens? Agree wholeheartedly. Another rock drummer who I always feel that way about whenever I listen to Humble Pie's stuff would be Jerry Shirley, if I haven't already mentioned him. Guys I also tend to take a second look at are those who other good drummers appreciate. What was the drummer's name for the Hollies in the '60s? I've always heard he was a drummer highly respected by other drummers at the time.
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 08:55 PM » |
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2008, 09:21 PM » |
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She was voted Best Rock Drummer of 1975 in a Playboy readers poll....(OK, so it was probably mostly men). I agree she was underated. If you watch some of her live stuff on YouTube you will see how skilled she was as a drummer. Do a search for the Dick Carpenter Trio and you can see her when she was 18 on a talent show. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2008, 10:14 PM » |
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Bobby Caldwell flat out rips it up. Bobby Elliot was always a favorite. Listen to Jerry Edmontons single stroke fills on Steppin Wolfs Move over and if you dont go into convulsions ill buy ya a bag of pork rinds or a slurpy (your choice). Hal Blaine, Floyd Sneed the drummer for Three dog night killed me (always).
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2008, 03:59 AM » |
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She was voted Best Rock Drummer of 1975 in a Playboy readers poll....(OK, so it was probably mostly men).
I agree she was underated. If you watch some of her live stuff on YouTube you will see how skilled she was as a drummer. Do a search for the Dick Carpenter Trio and you can see her when she was 18 on a talent show.
Yeah, I've seen some of that stuff. Pretty cool. I saw her live at the Airie Crown Theater in Chicago in the early 70s. They let he go for a while on a solo - she had chops coming out of her ears. Very solid, creative, tasteful. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2008, 08:38 PM » |
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I think the drummers for the Funk brothers, Papa Zita Benjamin, Pistol Allen, Uriel Jones. They laid down all of the great Motown grooves. Well, all of the Funk brothers are under appreciated for years and years. I have the dvd "standing in the shadow of motown". It says right onthe cover, "they played on more #1 records than the beatles, the beach boys, the rolling stones, and evlis presley combined."
And how many of us can even remember their names?
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2008, 02:25 PM » |
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Three on my list would be Danny Seraphine (chicago), Joey Kreamer (aerosmith) and Tico Torres (bonjovi).
All, extensively recorded, great live, excellent at what they do within the bands they helped build and brought to prominence.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2008, 03:01 PM » |
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Wow, that's a huge question. There are so many drummers that have gone unrecognized that have been influential, it's crazy.
I would add to my list of players:
Barriemore Barlow, absolute monster musician. Overshadowed by Ian Anderson, yet he remains humble to this day and has gotten past the bitterness of the Tull experience.
Les Binks, One of the first Metal drummers to really bring Double bass drumming into the arena with Judas Priest on their Stained Class album.
Steve Tassler, Drummer for Starcastle, America's answer to the Progressive Rock movement. Most popular for the song, Lady of the Lake.
Lee Kerslake, Drummer for Uriah Heep and later to appear on Ozzy's solo efforts.
Franz Diccolo (sp) with Italian Progressive favorites PFM. A powerhouse drumnmer with command of very complex arrangements.
Gil Moore with Triumph, maybe not the most technical of the bunch, but the boy could sing and wasn't afraid to throw in round house fills at will. He has my respect for that alone.
Gary McCracken with Max Webster from Canada and actually any other drummer that has played with guitarist Kim Mitchell from that band, Paul Delong and others.
Many others, but those come to mind pretty quick.
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 01:08 AM » |
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Karen Carpenter....
My Dad got the pleasure of seeing her...not me, only videos.
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2008, 07:54 PM » |
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Good names listed so far!
I saw the U2 movie yesterday and thought I could add Larry Mullen Jr to this list. Few would place him in any "Top Drummers" list, but for what U2 needs from a drummer, he delivers exactly that. Take a listen to "Angel of Harlem". He really delivers on that one!
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2008, 08:11 PM » |
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Dale Crover of The Melvins. I didn't realize his creativity behind the kit until I took the drums back up.
It's also a lot of fun to watch them with the 2 drummers.
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2008, 12:56 AM » |
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Phil Ehart - Kansas (I think I'm the only one that ever brings him up)
Bob Siebenberg - Supertramp (never mentioned but boy he could play)
John Barbata - Turtles, Jefferson Airplane, etc,,,(always liked him)
Eddie Hoe - Monkees (just listen to 'Goin Down')
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2008, 03:25 PM » |
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Phil Ehart - Kansas (I think I'm the only one that ever brings him up)
Bob Siebenberg - Supertramp (never mentioned but boy he could play)
John Barbata - Turtles, Jefferson Airplane, etc,,,(always liked him)
Eddie Hoe - Monkees (just listen to 'Goin Down')
John Barbata was a Turtle?. I picked up an old Ed Sullivan video with various 60's bands on it and I totally dug the drummer. |
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