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Author Topic: What do you think about - Practicing with the TV on?  (Read 1653 times)
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« on: March 09, 2008, 12:07 PM »

What do you think about - Practicing with the TV on?   Smiley
I don't think you can do All forms of practice with the TV on.
When you're working out something new, you need to give it your full attention.

But when you're reviewing stuff or simply just Playing, do you ever play with the TV on?
Do you see any value to it?

I do.  I think, when in review mode, you can help get autopilot going / muscle memory by doing some playing while watching something.

Think I'm crazy?
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2008, 12:43 PM »

YOU are some kind of modern day freak!!, crazy! aint the word!, you are seriously sick!. April fools. I agree with everything you just said N.Y.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 12:46 PM »

I do that all the time.  Watch TV (audio muted), play with headphones on to a CD...
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 01:44 PM »

I almost always have the tv on.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 02:09 PM »

I do the treadmill while watching TV, but have never tried it while practicing.  My drum room has no TV, so the situation has never presented itself.  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 02:38 PM »

I seldom watch TV alone (except sometimes very tired in a vegetative state) so banging something, even my thighs, when others are there is not exactly the best way make friends.  I think it's better to play/practice with something musical, if not the metronome than the radio, a loop or track, CD....  A music video would be good. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 02:45 PM »

I always take my sticks and a pad with me if I sit down to watch the news or a movie. My girlfriend doesn't mind unless it's something she is really excited about watching.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2008, 12:20 AM »

I think it would be difficult to have a real productive practice time while watching TV ... unless it's Drummer Cafe TV.  Wink

Your mind isn't really focused on what you are doing if you are playing on a pad while watching LOST. I think that you can spend time working the muscles and developing endurance, but if we are talking about a complete/thorough practice session where you are learning new things, listening to what you are doing, making corrections and noting how you are playing, watching TV at the same time just isn't the best way to go about it.

I've sat in front of the TV with a practice pad and just worked on my left hand. That was productive, but that was because of the goal that I had with the process ... which was simply to build strength and endurance by using the weaker limb.

I don't watch much TV to be honest. But when I practice, I'm very focused. I tend to make a lot better progress when I'm alone, doors closed, and not disturbed. This is the same when it comes to creativity time; I don't like to be disturbed or interrupted. What I can achieve in an hour of good practice would probably take me twice as long if I were distracted and not focused.

Personally I think people watch too much TV. So any time you can get away from it, the better off you'll be (in my opinion). Use your practice time to give 100% to the art of drumming. If you want to grab some extra time on the pad, building some endurance or strength, then maybe that would work while you are watching some TV. Perhaps just mute the commercials and get on the pad. We always mute the commercials in my home; always.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2008, 01:18 AM »

By no means should TV practice padding replace your normal practice routine, but I think it's a fine supplement. I have put a lot of good extra work into my sticking during those LOST episodes. Most everyone watches T.V. once in awhile, despite how ashamed we may be of it. Why not strengthen your finger technique or work your flams while you're doing it? Just don't neglect your normal, "closed-door" practice session.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2008, 01:21 AM »

By no means should TV practice padding replace your normal practice routine, but I think it's a fine supplement. I have put a lot of good extra work into my sticking during those LOST episodes. Most everyone watches T.V. once in awhile, despite how ashamed we may be of it. Why not strengthen your finger technique or work your flams while you're doing it? Just don't neglect your normal, "closed-door" practice session.

Agreed. I think you explained it better than I did.  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2008, 01:29 AM »

I've tried, but usually am stopped by a volley of complaints from family. Even when I find something quiet to tap on. Heck, once for even practicing stick twirling! (apparently it was casting some annoying shadows or something  Sad)
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2008, 01:31 AM »

By no means should TV practice padding replace your normal practice routine, but I think it's a fine supplement. I have put a lot of good extra work into my sticking during those LOST episodes. Most everyone watches T.V. once in awhile, despite how ashamed we may be of it. Why not strengthen your finger technique or work your flams while you're doing it? Just don't neglect your normal, "closed-door" practice session.

Super well put.

And, I Do think there is something to the notion of Reviewing things while doing something else.  [I.e. TV]  I really do think it can assist the mind in muscle memory.

When I was learning to pedal quickly and strongly on the bass, while moving among frets and strings, it was an Enormous help to sort of mindlessly log alot of that time while I was in front of the TV. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2008, 03:55 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2008, 03:59 AM »

When I practice drums it's in the basement, so I leave the dumb TV off. There's one there, but I could care less. When upstairs I'm using a pad and wife will have the tube on, so I just plain tune it out. Ignore it and the wife will put up with me. I trained her young, while I was in the Army band. There was a time when I had a set in the bedroom and a pad in the kitchen/livingroom. TV, no big deal....Just a part of life. When you play in a band you'll have to put up with loud patrons. May as well get used to it.  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2008, 07:58 AM »

Super well put.

And, I Do think there is something to the notion of Reviewing things while doing something else.  [I.e. TV]  I really do think it can assist the mind in muscle memory.

When I was learning to pedal quickly and strongly on the bass, while moving among frets and strings, it was an Enormous help to sort of mindlessly log alot of that time while I was in front of the TV. 

When I was really focusing on foot technique I bought a bass drum pedal pad and hauled it out to the living room and started running eighth notes while me and my girl were watching a DVD. She stopped that one quick  Grin Sticking is fine but the foot was a little much for her.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2008, 01:54 PM »

I'm with Bart, whenever you practice, no matter what you practice, part of what you are practicing is paying attention to being musical. When you split your attention , even for "routine" things, what you are also practicing is NOT being in the moment. You are basically practicing "zoning out" and, for me, the last thing I want to deal with on the stand is somebody who isn't listening anymore cause they're out in the ozone on automatic pilot.

Even with endurance stuff, really being in there and paying attention to your body, paying attention to execution and attack, consistency of approach, maintaining a relaxed and stress free physical approach - all of that doesn't happen if you're checking out the game or American Idol. There was a great line in one of the Robert Anton Wilson books - Never whistle while you're pissing. What it means is - don't divide your consciousness. Pay attention with your whole mind to whatever endeavor you're involved in. If you want to watch TV, watch TV. If you want to practice making music (and all the myriad disciplines and skill sets you need in order to have no impediment between the music in you and getting it out on your instrument), then practice making music.

As to muscle memory; your muscles don't have a brain that's separate from the one in your head. It's not so much muscle "memory" that you're working on as it is streamlining the pathways between intent and execution. And if you're throwing something else in the way of that (like Dancing with the Stars), well ya see where I'm going.

Oh and has everybody seen the spitzerface emoticon? You use it when you HAVE to apologize for something, even though you know that apologizing will do you absolutely no good and you'll still be just as hosed....
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2008, 05:13 PM »

Oh and has everybody seen the spitzerface emoticon? You use it when you HAVE to apologize for something, even though you know that apologizing will do you absolutely no good and you'll still be just as hosed....
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That's hysterical.  Where is that?
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2008, 05:55 PM »

Personnaly I can't do anything when T.V is on. Other persons can read with t.v on.When I play drums , is like reading something and I have to be concetrated to that, otherwise I am not gonna learn anything.

I believe that some technics can't be shown on tv, you have to practice with someone more experienced.
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2008, 03:24 AM »

Kill Your Television

"I am the slime from the video, oozing across your living room floor...."  Any know where that came from???
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2008, 09:16 AM »

When I practice in front of the TV with my pad and metronome, I've really begun to notice how many commercials have music in them.  It makes it hard to follow your metronome when there's another song playing!
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