How do you guys feel about this technique?  I personally disagree with it.  But, I'm interested in what you all think, and why you think that way.

I've heard this and I really don't understand the concept...it must be meant for people that really play into or thru the drums.

To me it means getting off the head...I think any drummer with reasonable technique is going be "pulling sound" unless otherwise desired.

I'll limit my comments to mallet instruments - I have some thoughts about the other percussion instruments as well, but I'll focus on my area of expertise.

There are two aspects to this issue, the way the "pulling off/out" motion is being described.  One is getting the mallet (stick, hand) away from the bar (drum head, etc.) as quickly as possible.  This, to me, is something to strive for, for several reasons:

- most importantly, it helps to maximize the efficiency of the stroke - begin with the mallet in the starting position, move it down towards the bar, strike the bar, bring the mallet back up to the starting position.  The more efficient this motion is, the quicker the process is, and the more mallet strokes one can get into a given period of time - thus increasing the speed of the player.  Bringing the mallet right back up after striking the bar, and ONLY using the "down-up-down" motion, also eliminates excessive motion, such as preparation strokes (lifting the mallet up an instant before bringing it down on the bar - why?  Wasted motion, wasted time.  It's like those drivers who routinely veer off to the right before making a left-hand turn.)

- bringing the mallet back up immediately after striking the bar gets it out of the way of the other hand's mallet; this is more of an issue on a mallet instrument than on a drum, given the lateral movements involved in moving from pitch to pitch.  The issue is getting one mallet out of the way of the other, again maximizing efficiency of motion.  (There are other benefits to this for two-mallet vibes/marimba/xylo playing, but that's moving OT.)

- Unless you're talking about dead strokes (leaving the mallet on the bar), I don't know if the "pulling up" motion actually gets the mallet off of the bar so much more quickly that the sound is noticeably changed.  HOWEVER, I think that a player with good technique - and the efficient "down-up" motion described above - will produce a better sound as a result of using quicker, cleaner motion, with the appearance of "lifting off" or "pulling off" the bar being symptomatic rather than causal.

Here's my problem with the idea of teaching a student to "pull the sound out" of a percussion instrument.  If the idea is to "pull out" of the bar (drum head, cymbal, etc.), you're going to - consciously or unconsciously - slow down the stroke before the mallet hits the bar - "pulling your punch," for lack of a better term.  On a very basic level, you get a percussion instrument to "sound" by transferring the energy from the mallet (stick, hand) to the striking surface.  I get my best sound - and over the years, I've had success teaching this way as well - by aiming for a spot underneath the bar.  Let the bar stop the motion of the mallet - that transfers the maximum amount of energy of the mallet (mass X velocity) into the bar, yielding (IMHO) a fuller tone and more volume.  The way I explain this to my students is to make reference to the basic motion of swinging a baseball bat or a tennis racket.  A batter doesn't stop the motion when he strikes the baseball, he swings through it - same for the tennis player.  Now, we're talking about greater velocity and mass when comparing a baseball bat to a marimba mallet, but the basic idea - transferring the maximum amount of energy from the mallet intothe bar - is the same.

I know this may seem contradictory to the idea of bringing the mallet right up off of the bar after striking it, but it's really not.

Bottom line?  I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of getting the mallet (stick/hand) off of the striking surface ASAP, for the reasons cited above - but the use of terminology such as "pull the sound out" just doesn't sit well with my concept of sound production.  As always, YMMV.

I agree with you 100% James ... as this is how I've taught my students in the past. I think the only time I've ever used the term "pulling the sound out of the drum" is when I've taught timpani.

I think James is totally right. And as far as using the term in question ... most people don't get it anyway ... it has always seemed to confuse the issue.

Visual images of touching a hot iron seems to work well; or thinking of the drumstick being made of butter ... and leaving it on the surface whould cause it to melt.

The best mental picture I've been able to use to help young students to allow the natural rebound of the stick to occur, and not press in, is to tell them to pretend there is a bug on their drum which they want to kill ... but not squash to the point that it's guts splatter everywhere. Kids just love that   and seem to get the idea rather quickly.

One thing that puzzles me ... especially when watching my 20 month old son play on my drums. He naturally allows the sticks to rebound off the drums and cymbals ... PERFECT technique with a GREAT sound. At what point does a child start ramming the stick into the drumhead? Is it aggression or learned behavior?

To me, playing the drums should be a natural thing. You do what you need to do to produce the sound, which is to set the instrument into motion and vibrate ... that's it! It amazes me that we have to talk and teach people to do this ... when a young child with no training or assistance can strike the drum beautifully ... not to mention hold the sticks in a relaxed, natural manner.

_{And it has nothing to do with Aidan being my son. He watches me play, but I don't think that has anything to do with it ... yet.}

100% agreement with james on this one.  100%.  

BTW, another good way to teach this stroke I've found it to talk about bouncing a basket ball, or even a tennis ball.  I've had students that I told to bounce a tennis ball around for a week, and especially for a minute or so before he begins practicing.  Also, if he loses his stroke during practice, stop, take a break, and go bounce the tennist ball.  It seems to really help with the idea of nataraul rebound.  

I believe that's the Gruber drum guru thing.  I guess you'd have to try it, although it sounded to me like a way to push traditional grip.  It seems to me that letting the stick rebound makes more sense than trying to jerk it up, but I guess I can't knock it if I haven't tried it.