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« on: April 20, 2008, 03:54 PM »

I just found this on Drummerworld: http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/Bernard_Purdiegroove2.html

It's all good, but don't DARE hit stop until you've heard the 20 seconds of cowbell groove at the end. It made my day...

The other thing I noticed was his left-hand technique on the snare drum. No "Gladstone", rebound, or anything like that to be found here... He buries the stick in the head, with the butt end, to boot! No doubt a big part of that "fat back" snare drum sound he's famous for.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2008, 04:14 PM »

Yes, I agree concerning the cow bell groove. It adds that certain something.GREAT COW BELL SOUND.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2008, 07:10 PM »

Yes, I agree concerning the cow bell groove. It adds that certain something.GREAT COW BELL SOUND.

You know ya gonna want that cowbell!   Grin
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2008, 07:24 PM »

You know ya gonna want that cowbell!   Grin

I thought that cowbell sounded great. Which one was it mr cowbell grand master?
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2008, 07:25 PM »

Nice.  I like the "shave and a haircut. . .  two bits!" lick to close it out.  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2008, 04:57 AM »

Quite frankly I could have done without the whooping and hollerin'.
Reminded me of a round of golf with Tiger.  Undecided

And is that china a Purdie signature item? He showcased it enough!  Sad

Seriously though, despite myself I have to admit the cowbell groove was pretty killer. Not exactly 'latin' as the caption suggested.
Throughout the clip the groove was 100% committed.
The man can play......end then some.  Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2008, 07:33 AM »

Quite frankly I could have done without the whooping and hollerin'.
Reminded me of a round of golf with Tiger.  Undecided

Now, do you mean the crowd, or Bernard? 'Cos he's been known to do some hootin' and hollerin' when he plays... Smiley On some other videos I've seen of him, he'll exclaim "Oh yeah!" when he plays something particularly groovy. That's 'Pretty Purdie', though.

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And is that china a Purdie signature item? He showcased it enough!  Sad

He's been using it for a few years now on his right side where the ride would usually be, so it tends to get a work out. I agree, I'm not a huge fan of China's blaring away all the time, but hey...


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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2008, 03:03 PM »

Seriously though, despite myself I have to admit the cowbell groove was pretty killer. Not exactly 'latin' as the caption suggested.
Throughout the clip the groove was 100% committed.
The man can play......end then some.  Smiley
He's playing a cowbell, it must be a Latin groove!

He buries the stick in the head, with the butt end, to boot! No doubt a big part of that "fat back" snare drum sound he's famous for.
He's does bury it, but its also cool how low the stick is after that and how quiet his ghosts strokes are to make that groovy beat.

Nice.  I like the "shave and a haircut. . .  two bits!" lick to close it out.  Smiley
Seems funny after all that heavy china playing to hear shave and a haricut.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2008, 05:45 PM »

I thought that cowbell sounded great. Which one was it mr cowbell grand master?

Must be LP Black beauty but I like the LP Salsa myself. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2008, 08:14 PM »

Must be LP Black beauty but I like the LP Salsa myself. 

No wonder I liked it. I love the Black Beauty, though I haven't heard mine in a while. Maybe that's why I didn't recognize it right off. Isn't there more the one model of LP Salsa? Which one are you referring to?

Got to say, Purdie's snare sound sure is fat. He is fun to watch play. I have watched the video several times now, though every time I do wish for less china.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2008, 08:25 PM »

Isn't there more the one model of LP Salsa? Which one are you referring to?

Yes ... the LP Salsa is a series of cowbells, not just one particular bell.

The LP Salsa Cowbells aren't as dry as the standard LP Cowbells. This livelier sound is indigenous to traditional Latin music.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2008, 10:56 PM »

Oh purleese.
Isn't this discussion more suited to the percussion forum?  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2008, 04:37 AM »


Thanks Boomka.

The other thing one can really take from this video is how Bernard is "in the zone" or "that place" where the groove just gushes from him.    He really commits everything to the groove and is unshakably smooth- a river.

We should all aspire to play with such release.  I saw meditative concentration in his facial expressions.

Time to go play!
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2008, 05:10 AM »

It's true, Felix - you can even see him singing his parts at times. It's not just his hands flailing away at some technical exercise, it's the voice inside singing.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2008, 06:06 AM »

He really commits everything to the groove and is unshakably smooth- a river.

Yes, I noticed that too.
He looked as if he was playing on the greatest song, for an artist he very much admired.
In reality I'm guessing he was doing a clinic in a conference room for a bunch of people he'd never see again.
I tip my hat to his professionalism, but also his obvious enthusiasm for and love of drumming.
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2008, 06:32 AM »

It's true, Felix - you can even see him singing his parts at times. It's not just his hands flailing away at some technical exercise, it's the voice inside singing.


Yes, subdividing while one plays/vocalizing... playing musically, lyrically, communicatively- it's the core of drumming.

*felix's journal entry for his personal edification*

So many ways to play a backbeat.  And effectively to make it sit in your mix, style and or band.  It's  full circle thing once one learns a few chops; for me personally to go back and practice groove.

I have a friend whom tries so hard to make these huge statements when he plays and so many things suffer.  Yet the less and more kicked back I play the more compliments I seem to garner.  It's weird.  I really approach drumming with humility these days and I have been getting some great compliments from some awesome players.  I'm really not blowing my horn but it surprised me how I used to think what was good drumming and what other people think is good drumming.

I suppose it has been my dedication to groove playing the past 3 or 4 years.  I mean really just sitting down and playing groove for 2 hours or so at a time.  I still don't think I'm very good at it the more I play it!  But I'm no worse, so that's cool.

Ever notice and I've read about this before, how much better everything "sounds" when the groove is happening?

The two books that really took my playing up a notch:
Fred Dinkin's "It's about Time"
Kenny Werner's "Effortless Mastery"
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2008, 11:26 AM »

The two books that really took my playing up a notch:
Fred Dinkin's "It's about Time"
Kenny Werner's "Effortless Mastery"

Thanks Felix for the book recommendations. The Kenny Werner books sounds great.

I also agree, whenever I try to make a 'statement', I get out of the moment, my mind thinks too hard on an upcoming fill and I blow it. Then comes unwanted looks from the band.  Cry

But you get nice looks from the band when it feels great and groovin.  Smiley

I's rather get nice looks! Most musicians don't want to struggle wondering what the drummer is doing, they just want it feel good. Where's the 1?!?

Some musician who are comfortable playing with say Vinnie C., but I wonder how are drained at the end of the night, saying "wow, that was rough"
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2008, 02:29 PM »

Some musician who are comfortable playing with say Vinnie C., but I wonder how are drained at the end of the night, saying "wow, that was rough"

Maybe, but really any good musician should be able to count.
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2008, 04:05 PM »

I think it's true that even the best musicians sometimes enjoy playing with a Levon Helm type, who lays it down nice and simple, more than a player who is constantly turning the beat around and hinting at 5 over 4 on a simple song.
They're both good, and our colleagues get something out of both experiences.
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2008, 06:20 PM »

Isn't there more the one model of LP Salsa?

Sorry it took me so long to answer.  I had to make a run to Nashville to pick up my son who had problems with his motorcycle.  1400 miles in 20 hours nonstop.  Anyway. you can hear the cowbell Here
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