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« on: May 01, 2008, 07:29 PM »

Alright, my new drums came today (Ludwig Classic maple  Grin ) And I've got a few questions on things like tuning and stuff.

I know the basic concept of tuning, and I have no problem tuning a drum, (well, most of the time) but I remember reading something about a technique that eliminates snare buzz when you hit a tom or snare. Something about changing the note of one drum or something

And the other thing is about putting my 13" tom on a snare stand. This is what I'm going to do, rather than using a suspended mount, but when I do this and tighten the snare basket, it chokes the sound quite a bit, and I'm just wondering if this is normal, and if a different type of rubber claw or something would help the matter.

If not, it's totally fine, and I can deal with it.

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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 08:58 PM »

Yes, the resonance will choke when you tighten the mount... that is normal... you can probably compensate by retuning the heads...

to eliminate snare buzz try changing the pitch of your snare... from 50 feet away you wont be able to hear this...
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2008, 02:24 AM »

I think the elimination of snare buzz is a balancing act between snare drum pitch and tom pitch. You don't want to be stuck with only one usable pitch on either drum.
Also, don't worry if the snare buzzes a little. that's normal.

To eliminate the choking of the tom on the snare cradle.......don't tighten it!
As long as it is holding the drum gently, that's as tight as it needs to go.

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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2008, 07:47 AM »

Hi guys.

The snare buzz can be reduced by puresound equalizers if you want to even bother.  Lately I have been playing stock sonor wires (very buzzy) but when I listen back to the recordings I really don't notice the buzz so much

I agree with C.W.  balance the offending tom and snare sound.  Alot has to do with how tight the wires are as well.  I was in a very loose phase for awhile and basically got zero buzz but now I'm going for a bit of a crisper sound so I'm adjusting the strainer with a bit more snap to it.  Yeah it's buzzier but no big deal.

I've also noticed on some drums/tunings that if you put 30's or 42's count wires on the weight of them actually dampens the head- so you get less buzz but lots of wire sound.

So whatever you like ya know!

Also my friend got a new set of ludwig classics with a 13" rack tom and 16 floor.  The rack was surprisingly choked on the tom mount/arm.  He hadbetter luck putting the tom out to it's farthest point on the tom arm and we also brought the mount/pole to the very tip of the receiver.  A RIMS mount would probably cure all that but then you have a big vent in your drum- some guys plug those back up.

I don't know why ludwig didn't get that cleaned up- but they are retro kits and with that you get a retro sound.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2008, 08:23 PM »

Alright, thanks guys.

The snare buzz is no big deal, I just thought I remembered an article on that a while ago.

And yeah, I figured that keeping the rack tom loosely on the snare stand works.


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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2008, 09:34 PM »

re: sympathetic snare buzz- sometimes loosening the four lugs closest to the snare beds (2 on ea side) will help some. >>sometimes<<.  Makes the sound a tad 'wetter', for better or worse.
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