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If so, how would you grade your ability?
A+ = You’re pretty much channeling Porcaro
F = Is that an animal dying?
I give myself a gentleman's F.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2008, 01:57 PM » |
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I'd say a C+.
I can play the groove, but not up to the tempo of the song, and I don't channel Porcaro when I do it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2008, 02:28 PM » |
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Not sure anymore. I will pull it back out after all these years and see, but I believe I can play it. I will let someone else listen and give me the rating you are looking for but A+ verses 2 F's isn't a really good gage.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2008, 02:46 PM » |
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A+ verses 2 F's isn't a really good gage. Nutty: I don't understand what you're saying. The grade range is from A+ (best) to F (worst). I'm asking you to grade yourself. Maybe you were confused by my joke about a "gentleman's F" which is a play on the "gentleman's C" -- a euphemism for a passing but unremarkable academic performance. |
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2008, 02:48 PM » |
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Nutty:
I don't understand what you're saying. The grade range is from A+ (best) to F (worst). I'm asking you to grade yourself.
Ok Smitty, Except, I don't like really grading myself. I will let someone else with a trained ear grade me and get back with you but I used to love to play that song. Nutty |
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2008, 02:58 PM » |
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I haven't played it in a little while but I don't think it would take me long to get it back to where I was with it. I would have to give myself a B on it, based on what I was doing with it. I play it and play it at the tempo and can play it at a faster tempo but wouldn't dare say I have channeled Porcaro and sound just like him. Very nice groove.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 02:59 PM » |
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Never tried. This would be a great one for the treatment Bart gave 50 Ways ... a couple of weeks ago: - MP3 sample - Pattern written out  |
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 05:52 PM » |
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2008, 06:50 PM » |
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Never tried. This would be a great one for the treatment Bart gave 50 Ways ... a couple of weeks ago: - MP3 sample - Pattern written out Someone beat you to the punch: http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jeff_Porcaro.htmlAnd a slightly larger version of the same transcription: http://tinyurl.com/67zfxqIt's all there, including a video of Jeff explaining/demonstrating the groove himself. Can't get any better than that. One note, however: in the transcription, the stem on the accented/rimshot snare note on 3 in the first bar seems to have been lost in translation. |
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2008, 07:26 PM » |
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I'm still planning on featuring this on the series of Legendary Drum Licks. I'll be breaking the groove down a bit more than what Jeff demonstrates, plus show what each limb is doing independently. |
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2008, 10:10 PM » |
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I'm still planning on featuring this on the series of Legendary Drum Licks. I'll be breaking the groove down a bit more than what Jeff demonstrates, plus show what each limb is doing independently. COOL! Ive never tried it, perhaps I will try it over the weekend. I can do Zeps "fool in the rain" decently and Rosanna is very similar. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2008, 11:05 PM » |
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Well I think I can do a reasonable attempt at it thanks to Bart. So I'd give myself a C.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2008, 02:44 AM » |
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I'm still planning on featuring this on the series of Legendary Drum Licks. I'll be breaking the groove down a bit more than what Jeff demonstrates, plus show what each limb is doing independently. How 'bout a guest spot for one of Mr A's "drum grooves of doom" every now and then? Perhaps Mr A does the intro with a little blurb (like that he uses on his site) and then hands over to you for the run-down? As for Porcaro's shuffle? I'll give myself a 'B' for mechanical execution, and an 'E' for "owning it." Give me another ten years or so and I reckon I can make that a solid 'D'... |
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2008, 03:42 AM » |
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I started trying to figure this out when I was 17. It wasn't until I saw JP doing it on his video that I worked out where I was going wrong. I will hesitantly rate myself a B-. I am very reluctant to rate myself against any Porcaro groove - though I will say that they keep me motivated to play.
Lido is obviously another great groove, though my favourite is "Black Friday" on the Katy Lied album by Steely Dan.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2008, 05:33 AM » |
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I had some private lessons from Ed Roscetti on how to play this groove. He was a good friend of Jeff's and played it very authentically himself.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2008, 08:29 AM » |
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I'm still trying to figure out the notation.  Never saw parens on a chart before. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2008, 08:33 AM » |
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The parentheses denote ghost-notes.
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2008, 08:44 AM » |
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The parentheses denote ghost-notes.
And actually, notes with parentheses around them mean they are optional or played occasionally. In the case of the notation you are probably looking at, the parentheses are around ghosted notes. I just wanted to point out that this is not really common to do. There's no "standard" per se. Ghosted notes are typically the unaccented notes. Sometimes they will use smaller note-heads for the ghost notes. I don't notate ghost notes with parentheses because it gets too cluttered. Others feel the same way, which is why the parentheses are reserved for notes that are either optional or are not played every single time (assuming you are repeating the figure). Just an FYI. |
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2008, 10:15 AM » |
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Can I play it? Yes.
Can I make it groove like Pocaro? Uh....that would be no. I'm not there yet. Don't know if I ever will be, but I'll keep on practicing.
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2008, 11:15 AM » |
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Jeff had an extraordinary amount of talent from all accounts I heard.
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