DRUMMER CAFE

hello, need some help, recently bought a roland td6 and ddrum acoustic triggers for the whole kit, i got all the settings i.e. [sensitivity, parameters,volume ect..] sounding great and the response is spot on, heres the problem, i'm having trouble with the 16in. floor tom, it'll pick up a slow single stroke roll but as soon as i increase my speed it'll only register every 3rd strike or so, just to let you know i switched triggers, a different head, tightened the head, adjusted the velocity on the module, sensitivity , you name it iv'e tried it, i also have a 14in. floor tom and it's spot on, why would a24in. kick register fast double footwork but my floor tom wont respond, anyone with ddrum trigger / td6 experience have any other suggestions,  thank you

Is there a self rejection setting for that trigger in the module?

It could be that you need to lower that setting..

Cheers

N

Mess with the tuning a bit too, some tunings seem to make a drum harder to deaden.

i'm not sure about a self rejection setting, can you explain exactly what that means, maybe it,ll be titled differently in my manual, by the way i did have the head tuned pretty loose , still no luck, i even called ddrum , they never responded

Yep it will probably have a different name, my electric kit is a Yamaha.

Basically it’s the setting that stops multiple fast triggers coming through on a single hard hit because of resonance or vibration. If this setting is dialled up any hits that quickly follow the first hit on the same trigger are ignored, the threshold for how long they are ignored for is controlled by that value.

So for the sake of argument if you had it set up too high on your 16 inch floor tom it would ”...pick up a slow single stroke roll but as soon as you increase your speed it'll only register every 3rd strike or so..”

Whereas the resonance that everyone is trying to get you to look at would almost cause the opposite fault, i.e. you play a 16th’s roll and a random 32’s pattern is played... (Although I agree it’s very important as well for triggering)

I am guessing you have never worked in tech support then... lol   

 

N

 yeah, i had the threshhold and scan time very low , no luck, i guess the only thing left to try is deaden it up like you said, maybe with a remo muffle tray, i hate those things , makes your drum feel like hitting a pillow but i guess i'm out of options , thanks for the help guys

I never triggered my whole set but I used to trigger my kicks.  I have a Roland TD8 by the way so I'm sure all the parameters are the same.

The Roland triggers were very difficult to control.  The Ddrum triggers worked better.  I did have to deaden the sound almost totally.  You have to completely sacrifice the acoustic sound of the drum and play with all the parameters.  Especially sensitivity and threshold.  Retrigger is also important.  I trigger my kicks differently now, just with the pedal which allows me to also simultaneously keep an acoustic kick.  Anyway, back to your question.  Some drums just reverberate in such a way that drives a trigger crazy.  I would experiment with foam which you can buy in any arts and crafts store for pretty cheap.  Completely stuff the drum with foam so that it deadens both top and bottom heads.  That will give you the most leeway with all the parameter settings and keep the triggering as accurate as possible.  You might also try a kick trigger on the floor to see if that responds better.

I used to have fits with my snare causing the kick to trigger.