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« on: June 23, 2008, 10:37 AM »

I am bored and need a new set to look at. I have a beautiful vintage burts Gretsch Catalina Birch 5 piece and was wondering about what they would be worth if I ebay them? I know shipping is a killer. The Birch was discontinued recently and I also wonder if that generally adds to a kit's value over time should I decide to keep it?

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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2008, 07:14 PM »

Any idea what year?
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2008, 07:18 PM »

They're discontinued but retailers haven't moved all of them out of their stock. It's a decent entry-level kit, so I'm going to suggest take what you paid new and subtract about 20% if they're still in excellent condition. Is that a little bit more than a new Blackhawk? I think so.

Any idea what year?

I would guess condition, not age, will make a difference here.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 07:36 PM »

I'm not sure of the age. They are in very nice shape and are parked at church. I got them at GC about 18 months ago. The shell pack was just $499 at the time. The new Ash and Maple kits are going from $6-750. So I guess I'm looking at asking $350 + shipping? They are very nice for the price but I may upgrade to the next level like Mapex Pro M level - used of course.

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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2008, 07:44 PM »

I would guess condition, not age, will make a difference here.

I could be wrong but I seem to remember somewhere about the early being 6 ply rather than 8 ply.  I should do some research but if I am correct the first year it was 6 ply and may be worth more to some speculators. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2008, 07:55 PM »

I could be wrong but I seem to remember somewhere about the early being 6 ply rather than 8 ply.  I should do some research but if I am correct the first year it was 6 ply and may be worth more to some speculators. 

I was not aware they changed ply count. I thought they were always 6-ply. Interesting. That said, whatever those kits retailed for will still determine its current value, I think. It's not a collector's market, so I doubt people are counting plies. It's a good thing and a bad thing. The market for used entry-level kits is stable for both buyer and seller. The bad thing is no one can really make a buck on new entry-level kits so many retailers consider them a loss-leader to compete on the back end. Sort of like convenience stores taking a loss on gas to sell you a $5 energy drink.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2008, 07:59 PM »

I think the birch is 8 ply.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 08:01 PM »

I'm not sure of the age. They are in very nice shape and are parked at church. I got them at GC about 18 months ago. The shell pack was just $499 at the time. The new Ash and Maple kits are going from $6-750. So I guess I'm looking at asking $350 + shipping? They are very nice for the price but I may upgrade to the next level like Mapex Pro M level - used of course.

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I think $350 would be the "move it fast" number. It may even hurt you to advertise that because people will probably think they're damaged or not in good condition. I think you could hold it for another $100 if you were patient. It's a legitimate entry-level kit. If you check the value on that market on eBay I think you'll find it's almost impossible to break into that category under $500 new, and that's for stuff that doesn't come with a recognizable name.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2008, 08:04 PM »

I think the birch is 8 ply.

Looked it up. You are correct. 8 ply all the way around, toms and BD. Very cool. Upgrade the hardware and you've got yourself a mid-level kit. Prefer the 10-ply BD, but nothing's perfect at that price.
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