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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2008, 04:21 PM » |
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Yeah, it's not nearly as bright as maple.
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2008, 05:41 PM » |
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Yeah, I've got an old Ludwig & Leedy snare that I believe is mahogany. It pretty well fits your description.
I actually don't get that much use out of it 'cause it's so quiet. Well, that and the strainer needs replacing because it gradually loosens.
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2008, 05:55 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2008, 05:40 PM » |
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If I'm interpreting the OP's sound description correctly, another possible road would be a 6-lug drum. Many mid-60's Slingerlands and Ludwigs could be the ticket, and they are largely affordable. I have a circa-'65 mahogany Slingerland 5x14, and with a Remo Renaissance head on it, it gets that sound. It's nice!
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2008, 07:46 AM » |
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I'm thinking the mahogany snare in this Gretsch kit might be a match, too:  Now, how to get my hands on that snare. |
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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2008, 03:32 PM » |
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Not a fan of Gretsch snares, and the recommendations of various older models given by forumites so far would be cheaper and offer much better value.
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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2008, 03:05 AM » |
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I don't know. I had a 6.5 black walnut/jasper shelled gretsch with die cast hoops. It was a late 70's model. I bought it for 65 bucks and sold it for 100. I wish I still had it- I always got raves from the thing.
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« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2008, 07:05 AM » |
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I heard a soundclip of a new Catalina Club Jazz mahogany snare, which can be had for low dollars, and it was getting pretty close to what I want.
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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2008, 07:16 AM » |
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Those kits and snares are everywhere. I'm surprised you have not played one yet.
They are very warm, slappy and pithy sounding kits. Not my taste, but definitely have their own vibe for sure.
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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2008, 07:38 AM » |
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Those kits and snares are everywhere. I'm surprised you have not played one yet.
They are very warm, slappy and pithy sounding kits. Not my taste, but definitely have their own vibe for sure.
Yeah, I'm a bit music-store-challenged in my area. Our local store has great selections to check out for guitars, basses, amps, cymbals, but really bad for drums. I have a pretty long drive to get to a store - I guess Sam Ash - where I have any shot of checking out those drums. But, at least from a lengthy online clip, the kit sounded like my kinda - cheap - kit. |
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« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2008, 09:06 AM » |
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Now is the best time to buy used gear, especially with the decline of the dollar's value. A kit that cost for example 900 bucks in 95 is usually 2 to 3x the kit you can buy for 900 bucks today new.
I would NEVER buy a new kit, this day in age especially. A used european or japanese kit are theoretically your best deal. The new kits of today are just going to be made cheaper and cheaper- they have to be for drum companies to stay in business.
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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2008, 04:04 PM » |
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I would NEVER buy a new kit, this day in age especially.
What about a new snare (Gretsch mahogany)? Each to their own. Just saying, a ply Slingerland, Luddy or WFL from the 40's and 50's would be the same price or cheaper than a new Gretsch, is a proven performer and guaranteed not to lose value. |
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« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2008, 07:35 AM » |
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Right, a used snare for sure- matched up to the used kit  |
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« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2008, 07:58 AM » |
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I'm bidding on a used/almost-new snare - which can later work well with a whole kit of similar drums - right now. |
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2008, 05:18 PM » |
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I'm bidding on a used/almost-new snare - which can later work well with a whole kit of similar drums - right now. And I lost.  |
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« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2008, 10:29 PM » |
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I don't think my snare exists out there.
To tell you the truth, I'm not wild about all the focus on
the *crack* of a snare. I don't want a snare
that is defined by having a great *crack*.
Is there any snare in the universe that can deliver these 4 simultaneously:
1. Warm
2. Fat
3. Low - while still being at fairly significant tension
4. Quiet
Yup - all of that - and Quiet. Doesn't exist, right?
I have a wooden 64 Slingerland that fits your description. Have you tried any of the old Ludwigs or Slingerlands? |
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« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2008, 04:39 AM » |
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He's trying as fast as he can  |
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« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2008, 09:23 PM » |
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NY Frank, you have inspired me. I finally got my 1950's Leedy & Ludwig snare drum in playing condition. Had to get a new batter hope and throw off for it. I believe it's made out of mahogany, and it fits your description pretty well now that I've got it working.
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2008, 04:16 PM » |
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Frank I have a snare that would probably be what you want because I was wanting those exact same things when I got this drum. A 6x14 Global segmented shell of African Mahogany. I got it off ebay. The drum came with die cast hoops which dried up and also fattened up the sound of the drum. I put an Aquarian TC head on top and Classic clear on bottom with 20 strand Canopus snare wires. I play with Vic Firth AJ5 sticks which are some of the smallest sticks made. The sound with the drum tuned medium low is fat and warm. No rimshots, just played in the center of the head and still excellent snare response.
Global drums makes good drums without breaking your bank. The only problem being. After I purchased my first drum I wanted to get another drum from Global. Soooooo I called up and talked to Matt who is the owner I think. We talked and sent a few emails back and forth and he was suppose to make me a drum. That was about 6 months ago and I still haven't heard from him. Finally after sending about 8-10 emails with no response I sent another one about a month ago telling him nevermind. Still have not heard from him.
Global makes great drums. Excellent quality and materials and great sound, but that is no way to do business. Maybe you will have better luck.
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