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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2008, 03:23 AM » |
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2008, 05:28 AM » |
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There's another chapter topic... How much of the time in the studio do you actually get to play a part that you would naturally come up with? vs. How many times the artist or producer already has something in mind and makes you stick with that idea? Then demonstrate what part you had in mind vs. what part you actually had to play.
You already share this information freely with us all the time here (THANKS!). To actually see it happen as it went down in a high-stakes studio environment (like the situation you just described) would be invaluable. Probably not very feasible, I realize, but still would be most instructive.
I dunno, just random thoughts bouncing around in my thick skull. Very interesting slant this thread has taken.
This discussion is intriguing. I'd love to see it go to DVD.  |
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2008, 09:00 AM » |
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Motion seconded.
I'd really love a DVD that kind of explains how a groove goes from a part (What you can write on paper) to a performance, with everything that makes it live and breathe and work, among the other things mentioned previously. The DVD's I've seen focus very heavily on WHAT you're playing, with the only how revolving around stick/foot technique.
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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2008, 09:30 AM » |
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Rolling right along with the concept... Next DVD topic: What seemingly "outlandish" things are suggested or forced upon the musicians in the studio, aside from the actual patterns? For example, how many people outside of the forums know that you recorded the drums and cymbals separately on "Shooting Rubberbands..."? That's something that would put most drummers in a state of cardiac arrest if forced to do that, I should think. The only other album I've heard about that being done on was the Queens Of The Stone Age album from a few years back that Dave Grohl played on. I'm sure there's many more recordings that the general drumming public doesn't know about that were recorded in ways outside the "norm" (whatever the norm is...  ) These things are of far more interest to me (and I suspect many others) than how to play double paradiddles on your feet while playing 9-stroke rolls on your hands over the top of that at 220 bpm. |
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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2008, 09:55 AM » |
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Wow man, I had no idea you have done recordings. Thats amazing that you played with Dire Straits, he's a solid musician. Dude how did you get those gigs? and into those situations? Anyways, nice song man.
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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2008, 10:21 AM » |
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Thats amazing that you played with Dire Straits, he's a solid musician.
That McCartney fellow that Chris played with is pretty good too...  |
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2008, 11:58 AM » |
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Haha, sure is. Is he credited for any recordings with him? I didn't see in the Wikipedia.
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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2008, 12:56 PM » |
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Haha, sure is. Is he credited for any recordings with him? I didn't see in the Wikipedia.
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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2008, 01:10 PM » |
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Haha, agreed. Why do I have a feeling he's done some huge recordings?
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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2008, 01:43 PM » |
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Wow man, I had no idea you have done recordings. That's amazing that you played with Dire Straits, he's a solid musician. Dude how did you get those gigs? and into those situations? Anyways, nice song man.
-EML.
A confession straight from the heart: I started playing drums around Chris got the drum chair with Dire Straits. At that time I was a huge fan of the Dire Straits, (loved Alchemy live, and Bros in Arms). And Terry Williams was my first ever DRUMHERO (cause of his Keith Moon-like / intuitive style of playing). In a TV interview Mark Knopfler (around on ever street came out and the tour was about to commence) said that they needed a new drummer. Chris got the job because of his gig (playing) with Paul Mc Cartney. And couldn't find a better drummer who could play the music. I believe these were the exact words. But for me: Terry wasn't there anymore  . Mourned for many years. Got over it the moment I became a member of this forum ;-). Rene / NLD |
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« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2008, 10:47 AM » |
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Wow man, I had no idea you have done recordings. Thats amazing that you played with Dire Straits, he's a solid musician. Dude how did you get those gigs? and into those situations? Anyways, nice song man.
*sneaks over to EML and leans in to whisper* Several of the people you've been debating in several threads have recording credits with people you've probably heard of. |
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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2008, 12:58 PM » |
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I've been through my share of drum books and I honestly believe that Tommy Igoe's book is not only one of the best, but one of the most practical drum books that I have ever come across.
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« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2008, 01:43 PM » |
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Yeah man, it's so solid. Tommy is one of the best drummers around today. I doubt anyone disagrees with that either.
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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2008, 03:35 PM » |
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Tommy? Where to start....  . . . . No, I'm just kidding. Hey, congrats EML. You spawned a couple of lengthy threads in your first week. |
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« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2008, 03:36 PM » |
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Haha thanks. Is that a good thing?
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« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2008, 05:02 PM » |
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Is that a good thing?
Would you prefer to be ignored? |
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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2008, 09:18 PM » |
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Haha no.
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« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2008, 08:51 AM » |
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It looks like the first DVD presents actual drum parts in actual musical contexts. That's appealing to me. When I work with books of abstract exercises (Stick Control, The New Breed, etc.) I often have a hard time relating those to actual music.
A lot of the stuff on the first DVD looks more complicated than anything I'd actually play, but might be great to practice as purely technical exercises.
f the second DVD is more advanced, I can't see myself benefiting from it.
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« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2008, 09:51 AM » |
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6/24/08 THE BIRDLAND BIG BAND directed by TOMMY IGOE!!
Time and Place Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008
Time: 7:00pm - 11:00pm
Location: Birdland Jazz Club
Street: 315 West 44th Street (Between 8th & 9th Ave)
City/Town: New York, NY
It's worth checking out tonight if you're in the neighborhood, I'd go, but I don't have a baby sitter.
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« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2008, 10:19 AM » |
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6/24/08 THE BIRDLAND BIG BAND directed by TOMMY IGOE!!
Time and Place Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008
Time: 7:00pm - 11:00pm
Location: Birdland Jazz Club
Street: 315 West 44th Street (Between 8th & 9th Ave)
City/Town: New York, NY
It's worth checking out tonight if you're in the neighborhood, I'd go, but I don't have a baby sitter.
Just note that if you want to see Tommy, and you don't catch this particular night, there are many more. He plays in NYC very frequently. |
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