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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2008, 08:46 PM »

I totally agree that the sound mainly comes from the musician - did you see Stuff "Live in Montreux"? Gadd is playing what looks like a stock Ludwig kit, with "Silver dots" on all toms AND the snare drum (!) The sizes are not his standard choices either. Anyway, I seriously doubt that I would notice this if I'd only heard the audio recording. Here's a sample:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/AiBQeTqEDZY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/AiBQeTqEDZY</a>
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2008, 09:25 AM »

I think you have a point there Peppe.

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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2008, 05:16 PM »

I dunno.
That kit makes him sound more like Bonham!
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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2008, 05:18 PM »

No.  Grin

Note the toilet roll on the toms by the way - my preferred method of damping.

I've got to say outstanding drumming in all departments!!!
The man is quite simply one of the all time best, even though many of the projects he's worked on don't float my boat.

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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2008, 09:17 PM »

Yes, I'm definitely going to purchase that DVD. Personally, I love Stuff! Marvellous rhythm-section (and the solos are ok too Wink)
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2008, 06:36 PM »

I'd have to hear it on some better speaks.  He still always sounds like him tho'

But yeah, he's so brilliant at such a young age there as well.  That's what is a reality check for me.  Back in the 80's I'm trying to cop Steve Gadd licks (not much better playing them now) and here I am 40 something basically burned out and washed up with a day job.  He just keeps getting more venerated, never had a day job in his life I bet.

He got handed a Quadruple portion of talent.  Not that I like his playing very much though  Roll Eyes  Grin
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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2008, 08:35 AM »

Steve Gadd has so much feel he could play trash cans and make them sound great.  Smiley Has anyone put drum construction into this discussion? I have seen one drum head sound great on one kit and bad on the next. I know my DW Edge sounds best with a Evans Genera Dry. I think a lot of it is tuning, and type of wood used in construction. I remember when I was a kid, my 1 st. kit was the Slingerland Phamton clear, which I still have by the way, heads were a problem because of the acrylic. A lot of overtones and trying to damping. The end result was kill the drum by overdamping.
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2008, 07:01 AM »

I agree with Chris the sound coming from the kit is predominantly the player.

I've never bought into the marketing (from any company) and I've simply trusted my ears and my hands. For example, "the Tap Test" is ridiculous to me. It's akin to hitting a rim for your next drum and knowing how the kit is going to sound.

My preferred head is a Remo FiberSkyn FA (on the batters) simply because of how they feel when they are cranked up tight and their durability (I rarely change drum heads, I prefer them broken-in). But this doesn't mean that the FiberSkyn is "the best drum head"; I played house kits (both Yamaha) at the last two Jazz Festival gigs (Toronto and MontrĂ©al) and the Toronto kit had Evans coated heads, the MontrĂ©al kit had Remo Coated Ambassadors. After I spent a few minutes on each kit with the drum key, I got "my sound" out of the kits.   
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