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« on: July 12, 2008, 08:43 PM »

Are these any good?
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2008, 08:53 PM »

Are these any good?

On the plus side. . .
They're affordable
They're easy to get
They have a nice trashy sound.  I like them for that.

On the minus side. . .
They're not the most durable cymbals out there.  But then - they're not particularly expensive.  So, if you crack one, you can probably afford to replace it.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2008, 08:54 PM »

If you're looking for a trashy china sound.  I have never enjoyed the sound of any china type, but I always liked the Wuhan better than Sabian and Zildjian chinas I have owned or played.  The china cymbal isn't really a necessary component to the drumset, so you have to decide for yourself if that's what you want to add.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2008, 09:59 PM »

I would fix up the Premier drums first.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2008, 05:05 PM »

I would fix up the Premier drums first.

I agree on that.

But when the time comes, a Wuhan china is a great add.  I have two and they are the trashiest nastiest cymbals I've ever heard.  And they are inexpensive!  I've heard people say that they break easy, but I've not had any problems.  Then again, I'm not a hard hitter...
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2008, 02:51 PM »

I can only vouch for the 14" size. I bought it for $9.99 at GC. I stuck 2 rivets in it and I love, Love, LOVE it!  It's a great little accent trashy splashy.  I'm not so sure I'd love the larger ones or not.  Most of the stuff I've been playing for the past few years doesn't really require a china, so my Zildjians sit in their case.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2008, 10:54 AM »

Post from the Tama forum:

Went back to what God intended and am using G1 over G1 now. It's
probably a surprise to many but just like the Evans sound diagram, G1's
are warmer than G2's -- they have less of that high pitch "smack" of a
stick on a clear G2 and of course when paired over a G1 w the reso and
batter tuned to the same pitch, there's just this nice "smoothness," and of
course great tone from single ply heads (for grins, tap an unmounted G2
and then a G1, there's so much more bottom in a G1).

And as threatened, I put a matching EQ4 clear on the kick reso. It adds a
little more depth than the stock head (the Evans EQ4 has a deeper sound
than the mystery reso head that comes on our Tamas). I think
like Fribrestar's kit, it would look a little nicer w/some logos etc, oh well,
but when the light is right, we see the bubinga goodness, yum.

And finally, I got sucked into the Wuhan vortex. Musician's Friend is/was
having a sale -- 18" china for $29. Wow. And I ordered a "western" style
splash from Wuhan as well. Wow that 18" China is loud, and of course
trashy sounding -- truly "chinese". I can see why many are fan of Wuhan
w/it's incredible price point, and the sound is definitely beyond the price
paid, considerably so. I like 'em. The splash has a lot of character, after all
these are effects type cymbals anyway. They work... and for cheap! I am
not a basher so I am not worried about splitting them...and if I do who
gives a cuuhrap at that price.





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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 06:29 AM »

Wow, Birdman, beautiful kit!

I didn't know you could get the bubingas in anything other than natural color.  I like it!

Can you get us some soundbytes?  I've heard the bubingas with a few different head combos on them, G2s and EC2's and they both sounded great.  I look forward to hearing your setup.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2008, 11:49 AM »

You're thinking of the omnitunes version (white, black,or natural) --the Starclassic Bubs have an outer ply of Maple so they can stain them about anything they want --in my case coral reef blue.

Sorry no sound files.

Got to the tama forum, look up CB Photo's posts --he has some nice recordings w/ the stock heads (clear G2 over G1)
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2008, 06:52 AM »

I own 12", 18", 20" and 22" Wuhan chinas, as well as several of their splashes.  I'm a heavy hitter, though I don't use great big sticks -- the Stewart Copelands by Vater.  I've never had any durability problems with them in over 2 years.  I mount it inverted, and NOT on an Aquarian cymbal spring.

I find the 20" most versatile for the bands I play with, even though I prefer the doomy sound of the 22".  Most people like the 18" best, though it's a bit too high pitched for me.  And I don't ever use the 12"...it is really high pitched.

As for being LOUD, I can tell you that compared to other brands, they are not overly so.  These cymbals have a nice dynamic, with a sharp attack and a fizzy decay, definitely standing out in loud music without piercing ears.

They are great cymbals, regardless of price...which is unbeatable.  Quality control IS an issue, so my 18" might sound different than your 18".  But this is the genuine article made-in-China-chinatype that other brands have tried to imitate.  HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2008, 08:30 PM »

I can't say I'm a big Wuhan fan, but I have a 12" China that I got from Guitar Center for like $10 a few years back. I only used it for a few months and the china sound doesn't really fit in with the rest of my kit so I don't use it at all anymore. I did sound good apart from my set though.
A drum ensemble that I play in also has a 12" that is pretty old. I would say well over a 1/4th of it is gone but we hit HARD. And actually I perfer the sound of the broken one more. The problem is the flying bits of metal every time you hit it.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2008, 09:51 PM »

My friend has gone through like 10 of them within 2 months of constant gigging. They are really affordable though. He is also a heavy hitter.
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2008, 09:35 AM »

i love wuhan's in general but they really vary from cymbal to cymbal; it's worth it to get down to GC (or wherever) to try out a handful. some can be really clunky; some can be divine.

the 12" splashes are my favorite recording hihats, ever.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2008, 06:55 PM »

Wuhans are great. Their chinas are the best. You should also check out their Rock and S series cymbals. I have 3 "S" series 10 & 12" slpashes and a 17" crash. These are well made hand hammered B20 cymbals. They sound friggen great. I have zildjians , sabians and a meinl and my wuhan crash easily compares with any of them.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2008, 02:06 PM »

Really?  I didn't think they made anything worth buying besides the China's..Too bad all the local shops only deal Sabian...I can't try anything out.
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2008, 07:48 PM »

Too bad all the local shops only deal Sabian...I can't try anything out.

I know what you mean.  When I got my current kit, I wanted to get some Istanbul Alchemy's but nobody has a selection of them.  I became interested in them after I found out that's what Matt McDonough of Mudvayne uses.  I really dug his sound on the Lost and Found record, very crisp and clean. 

But alas...which ones to get...and will I like their sound in person?  The world may never know.  I won't buy a cymbal that I can't hear in person.  I had to settle for Paiste.

Heh.  Settle.  Just kidding.  I LOVE my Paistes though.
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