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« on: August 07, 2008, 12:51 PM »

I seem to remember seeing this hi-hat stand that was more of just a "holder" since it wasn't foot controllable.  You set it, and there it stays.  For a second hat added to the kit.  I don't know of anyone who makes such a thing anymore.

I think Lars Ulrich had one once...might have been where I saw it.  Any clues as to this thing?  Does it (still) exist?

All I can find that is close is the cable-remote stands, and those cost an exorbitant amount of money too...  Don't get me wrong those are nice, but Tama doesn't make one and that's the brand of my pedals.  I know I don't have to stick to one, but I like their pedals.  Kinda wish they made a cable stand.
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 01:00 PM »

So you want one like this: (?)
http://www.gibraltarhardware.com/index.cfm?fa=partsmain&curcat=2&bnd=11&cid=105&sid=473&pid=1631
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 01:25 PM »

I seem to remember seeing this hi-hat stand that was more of just a "holder" since it wasn't foot controllable.  You set it, and there it stays.  For a second hat added to the kit.  I don't know of anyone who makes such a thing anymore.

I think Lars Ulrich had one once...might have been where I saw it.  Any clues as to this thing?  Does it (still) exist?

All I can find that is close is the cable-remote stands, and those cost an exorbitant amount of money too...  Don't get me wrong those are nice, but Tama doesn't make one and that's the brand of my pedals.  I know I don't have to stick to one, but I like their pedals.  Kinda wish they made a cable stand.


You mean something like this?

http://www.tkqlhce.com/e5103dlurlt8ADCB99C8A9CHABIG?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.musiciansfriend.com%2Fproduct%2FPacific-Drums-by-DW-CH1012-Closed-HiHat-Arm%3Fsku%3D443578&cjsku=443578



Several drum companies make similar rigs - you can mount them anywhere on your kit. I used one a lot in the 80s.

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 02:14 PM »

Why yes!  Excellent....wonder why I couldn't find it before...

But yeah man, right on the money.

Thanks a bundle!
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 02:54 PM »

This used to be referred to as an X-Hat ... any time it was a permanently closed, mounted HiHat, not on a standard HiHat stand.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 05:34 PM »

Don't forget the the Drop Clutch too.  It works with you normal HH stand.  The clutch can release (drop) so you have closed hihats.  Then when you step on the HH pedal the clutch re-engages back to normal.  I use a drop clutch these days.  I never cared much for the X-Hat personally.

several different companies make them.  Here's one:



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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2008, 06:42 PM »

This used to be referred to as an X-Hat ... any time it was a permanently closed, mounted HiHat, not on a standard HiHat stand.

That's the name Gibraltar uses still.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2008, 12:26 PM »

And of course you can likely make one yourself from your 'bones bin'.

(What? you don't have a 'bones bin?'  Just wait a few years. Your wife will point it out to you...)

I cut up an old hi hat tube, stuck a washer/felt/nut on the bottom of the rod, used a regular clutch plus an additional tension ring on the cymbal end... mounted it with a multiclamp of some sort... worked for years and years. Cost nada.
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2008, 07:47 PM »

Don't forget the the Drop Clutch too.  It works with you normal HH stand.  The clutch can release (drop) so you have closed hihats.  Then when you step on the HH pedal the clutch re-engages back to normal. 
several different companies make them.  Here's one:





OMG...I can't stand those things...

Tama makes a Cobra Clutch that I was considering though.  Uses a rocker pedal of sorts, to maybe take a different approach than the drop clutch.



Was considering that.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2008, 04:52 AM »

Tama makes a Cobra Clutch that I was considering though.  Uses a rocker pedal of sorts, to maybe take a different approach than the drop clutch.



Was considering that.
I have been playing with the cobra clutch and love it to bits, took me a day or so to get used to it, but it has really opened up my hi-hat work...

I used a drop clutch in the past & I am pretty proficient with it, but I still had to work the changeover into my beats (sometimes quite fast & technical, so I don’t always have the space/time for the xtra change hit on the hands without writing one in) But this thing allows me to have instant change and because it’s heal controlled there is zero sacrifice for me...

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2008, 12:44 PM »

Thanks for the excellent testamonial, Nick!

Even though the Cobra Clutch is a $100 hit, it saves one from having to buy an extra pair of hats.  Cymbals have gone up over the years...
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