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Author Topic: Best way to learn to play a song  (Read 822 times)
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golot
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« on: March 02, 2003, 08:41 AM »

What is the best way to learn to play a song (on drums)?

Play it in the CDplayer and play along?
Put the tabs in front of you and play without the music, and after that go to play along with the song?
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Yokozuna
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2003, 08:57 AM »

Well I don't know what's the best way.

But when I must learn a song, the first thing I do is put it on and start drumming along with it. While doing this a lot you automaticly hear what you are drumming the wrong way.

But mostly I play songs iv'e listened a lot before, then you know about 80% or more of the rhytms. For Dream Theater etc. this is not the point, because those drummers use about 30 chops in 1 song.

But I write nothing down for my band. We play pop and rock, those songs have a basic structure. On those songs my way of practicing works fine. It's the most lousy way, and it's enough for those basic songs (wich you hear on radio and tv etc.. )

But I know for sure other people have better practicing methods for "not so basic songs".  For songs with a large variety of chops I just listen to the songs enough without drumming along, and after that I try to drum with it. It's actually a quite logical method I guess.
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guerrillawar
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2003, 07:33 AM »

i listen to the song whenever possible so i have it STUCK in my head.
then i go and play along with what's in my head.
next i listen to the song again.
then i play along with the song.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2003, 09:36 AM »

Transcribe to chart, notate the hip fills you wanna keep, play the thing thru a couple of times to check your chart then nail it at band practice

Works everytime.

Say it takes you 1/2 hour to make a decent chart, you will spend at least that long "learning" the darn tune.

After you have your chart it will make the tune much easier to memorize

Some songs are easier to learn than others and don't require a chart...some do.
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2003, 10:50 AM »

What Felix said. Chart the song in any kind of shorthand you find useful. Last winter I auditioned to be the replacement drummer for a number of bands, and having some quick references down really helped.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2003, 09:40 PM »

What felix said is fantastic.  I, for one, am a very visual thinker and it helps to chart a song in my own shorthand so I can have it all in front of me.  
If you've never made a chart and want to learn how, or just get another perpective, check out Gregg Bissonette's video "Playing, Reading and Soloing With a Band".  It's also avaiable as a book/CD.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2003, 10:49 AM »

Listen to it while driving.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2003, 09:07 PM »

Don't know if it's the best way but I just listen to the song, visualize in my head what is being played and then play along.  I then fix the parts that aren't right by hearing where what I'm playing is not matching what I'm hearing.

Some songs are ridiculously easy and can almost be played without actually learning them except for where the stops and breaks are.

Other songs are very complicated and take hours to learn.  I usually gravitate toward this type of song.  I like to be challenged.  I play a lot of Rush and Dream Theater type stuff.  I used to also play a lot of progressive stuff from the 70's by bands that not very many have ever heard of.  Whatever floats your boat.

I almost never write anything out.  I have on occasion where I either had to learn a lot of songs in a very short period of time or if a section was so complicated to my ears that I just couldn't get the pattern until I wrote it out and saw it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2003, 10:15 PM »

I agree about listening to it if possible while driving.  Just play it over and over.  It's a good way to listen without the added task of playing it at that time.  

When I get to it on the drums for the first time, I put the cd on, and just play it, usually wrong.  That inspires me to listen to the tune and start learning it right.  

The harder the song, the easier the rest of 'em will be.  There are two songs that I have recently learned that I'd like to share, if anyone wants to learn them, also.  I found both very challenging.  One is We're An American Band by Grand Funk.  If you can nail Don Brewer's parts, you're doin' great!  There's a lot going on throughout the whole song.  Fun tune!!  One of my favorites.  

The second tune is Only Women Bleed by Alice Cooper, from the live album Fistful of Alice.  For those of you that want to improve on your bass drum control, both these tunes I recommend, and have fun!! Cool
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Jeff
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2003, 11:14 PM »

Figure it out in my head, then work out the tricky parts before hand, then play along to it. I have stereo isolation headphones which are great, and a cheap mp3 player I use occiasionaly if I dont have the song on a CD. I need to get the patience to chart Tongue

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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2003, 07:57 AM »

The fastest way is to chart it out - that way you'll rely less on your memory.

Don't rely on tabs. There's no guarantee that the tabs are correct, and you're not improving your own ability to figure this stuff out if you just read the tabs.

Almost all of the drumming you'll be trying to figure out will consist of quarter notes, 8th notes, triplets, and sixteenths. The fast stuff is usually sextuplets or 32nd notes. That's only SIX different kind of notes, each with its own distinctive sound.

Learn what those notes sound like - how to recognize them when you hear them - and you'll be able to figure out virtually any drum part. It's really not that hard.

Just spend a little time on the basics, learning those 6 note types, and you won't believe how much your drumming will improve. And the drumming of your favorite drummers will seem FAR less mysterious!
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