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I don't use a pillow in my bass drum. Yes, it gives a shorter sustain and takes the overtones out but it's lowering a LOT of bassresponse and I think that sux. I just use a muffle ring to get the overtones out and KEEP probably 90% of the natural bassresponse. For a shorter sustain I use a tight tuned resonant head without a hole. So, there's nothing in my bassdrum expect a muffle ring  Of, I play metal/rock/funk. |
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« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2003, 06:17 AM » |
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hey guys...seriously, check out the aquarian sk1 Pre Pack...it comes with front and rear heads plus the kick pad. Best 70 bucks you will spend on your kick.
Also, if your regulator front head is over 6months to a year old, change it out (I know, mine was at least 2 years old)
The difference in sound with just a new kick drum reso is remarkable...same front head, just a fresher one.
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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2003, 07:07 AM » |
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DE bass drum muffling pillow
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« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2003, 09:21 AM » |
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their cat crept into my bass drum, crapped and crept out. Yet another reason to use a full resonant head. Fecal matter deposit prevention!  Maybe a drum head company could adopt this as a new slogan.  I hate cats! |
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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2003, 10:01 AM » |
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well...I have a couple folded comforters that get me a nice sound, but I am also thinking I want to try the SuperKicks. I read so much about the Aquarian stuff here I am going to take the plunge. I would also to to avoid the hole in the front head so I can keep that nice response, as I understand it though it tends to make sound engineers cranky when they can't shove a big mic in there. I like cats! -RHSquonk |
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« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2003, 10:09 AM » |
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My favorite combination is an EQ4 with an Aquarian double kick pad and a single ply resonant with a piece of Moon Gel as close to dead center as possible.
With a felt beater it's a good jazz drum, but put wooden beaters on and it thunders for rock.
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« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2003, 10:54 AM » |
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Wow, what a vast array of different techniques. If you aren't in the studio, most of the tiny little dampening and nuance techniques are lost in any room, and live mics certainly dumb it down even further, so IMO if you can acheive most of "your sound" with just a head/beater/playing style (off or on the head) you won't have to tweek as much on the little things... I do understand the quest for "it', though. OCD's surely come at a price...
I use an Aquarian Super Kick I or II (depending on the power of the gig) with nothing in the drum. I generally use a 24" or 26' drum.
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« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2003, 11:01 AM » |
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This should have been a poll, because everyone took my witty comments... I too use...NOTHING...thank you Aquarian |
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« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2003, 12:07 PM » |
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Nothing but air. Just like my toms and my snare.
IMO, the modern self-muffling heads like the Aquarian SuperKick and Impact heads, or some of the newer ones offered by Remo and Evans, make it unnecessary to stuff your bass drum full of laundry.
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« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2003, 12:20 PM » |
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make it unnecessary to stuff your bass drum full of laundry. It's really hard for me not to crack up when I hear about people stuffing their kicks, heck, I used to stuff my kicks like a cheerleader before prom night...BUT remember that crazy "papery" sound that used to be so in vogue- for example, anyone every check out Barrimore Barlow's sound on some of the Yngvie (sp?) Malmstein stuff? I thought that was a cool sound. |
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« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2003, 05:18 PM » |
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« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2003, 11:23 PM » |
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Right now I'm using a loner and it has one of those REMO rings with the foam. Dead Ringer? Anyhoo, it works great for the two-ply pinstripe and me. It's just boomy enough for the gig I'm playing now which is kinda of a punk rockabilly thing.
I did a session once where we ended up using shredded newspaper held down with a small, five-pound weight. It worked great.
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« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2003, 02:06 PM » |
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IMO, the modern self-muffling heads like the Aquarian SuperKick and Impact heads, or some of the newer ones offered by Remo and Evans, make it unnecessary to stuff your bass drum full of laundry. True. A mufflering will get all the overtones out, and you only have 10% (or something) less bass response. Shorter sustain: hole in resonanthead or resonanthead really the other way tuned as the batterhead. |
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« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2003, 02:37 AM » |
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D112 and air. Years ago i used to have a pillow in there which our cat once decided to use for a nap on. A most unusual and unexpected sound came out the port hole when i kicked it into life not realising she was in there. |
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« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2003, 03:58 AM » |
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Nothing in mine but the sliver of drumhead left over from a hole-cutting (when I had a different reso head on, even).
I like to tape a folded piece of felt to the 12 o'clock position on the reso head, just to take the slight overtones out.
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I'm not a particularly slow player, yet I don't play fast. I play half-fast.
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« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2003, 10:09 AM » |
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Felt is cool...like a big strip of it going across the shell then you put the head on and lock it down when you tighten.
Great retro boom sound. I LIKE IT!
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« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2003, 10:14 AM » |
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i use absolutely nothing |
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« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2003, 09:31 PM » |
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Nothing in mine but the sliver of drumhead left over from a hole-cutting (when I had a different reso head on, even).
Just to pass on an idea I've used for years and has always worked well for me- I find a metal can the size of the hole I want in the drum head, heat up the rim, (make sure it's hot enough or it gets a little sticky) and burn through. You'll probably want to use an oven mitt if you do this. Tip-don't pull the can back out, push it all the way through.  |
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« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2003, 11:04 PM » |
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I use nothing at the moment, Aquarian Force's on my 22. Before when I had unmuffled heads I had two sheets of stereo speaker material (stuff they use to cover speakers) rolled up, one against each head. I used to have a 5" offset hole, but at the moment have nothing, considering putting one back in though.
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