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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2002, 10:13 AM » |
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I was just going to ask all of you what grip you use and low and behold here it is..haha.
Anyway, I'll echo what Carlos said although I do tend to favor traditional grip. My first instructor made me hold traditional grip...he was really into jazz etc. My high shcool band program was basically patterned after drum corp..... we even had Santa Clara's guy do our colorguard and everything. Anyway, we held traditional grip so, it's stuck with me ever since.
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2002, 10:29 AM » |
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Both matched and trad. It depends on the music I'm playing. My trad grip is a long-time work in progress and not yet up to par with my matched  |
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2002, 04:43 AM » |
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Matched, noone taught me the trad grip! >: The weird thing is that my left hand is more comfortable when the palm is parallel to the floor, but my right hand feels ok when it's like what you guys describe as the American grip. lol
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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2002, 01:14 PM » |
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I'm kind of new to this. I played in a marching band about a hundred years ago (ok - maybe it just seems that long). Recently, at the tender age of 41 I purchased my first drum kit. Basic rudiments came back pretty easily, but although I've been practising using matched grip for the past few months, I think I'm going back to traditional. I don't know if it's because of my marchine 'experience' or not, but it just feels more natural to me for some reason. Also, I guess we all sometimes try to emulate our heros, and Carl Palmer is mine. Although he kind of goes back and forth, he primarily uses traditional.
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« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2002, 10:15 AM » |
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Set/snare - Matched Grip
Timpani - German for staccato/loud rolls/tech passages, French for quiet rolls/single attacks
Mallets - Burton Grip (4 mallets)
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« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2002, 01:52 PM » |
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As an orchestral player for over 40 years could I make a small point on your excellent forum?
The trad v matched debate will no doubt go on for as long as snare drums are played. So far as I am concerned only the sound counts, not how you achieve it.
However, I have found it a distinct advantage with absolute beginners to teach them trad first (as I was taught) because the one thing I do know for certain is that it is a great deal easier to switch from trad to matched than from matched to trad.
Many do switch from trad to matched and that's fine but it is an easy switch to make. The other way (in my experience) is hard work for both teacher and pupil.
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Alan M. Watkins
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« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2002, 02:49 PM » |
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Personally, since I was taught traditional and later matched grip, I still use both, but primarily matched grip. (Sometimes I fall back into the habit of using traditional for jazz playing, but it's never a conscious choice.) However, I start all of my new students out on matched grip, for a couple of reasons:
1) The fact that both hands use the same technique means that a student can use his stronger hand as a guide away from his lessons, to help to improve his weaker hand.
2) The matched snare drum grip is very easily adapted to basic two-mallet technique (xylophone, marimba, etc.), and even to basic timpani technique; certainly much more so than traditional grip. I try to start students out on mallets and timpani as early as possible in their studies, and I like being able to teach them one basic technique for striking their instruments, rather than teaching one for snare drum and another for everything else.
3) I have yet to have anyone indicate to me what technique (with the possible exception of the "swirling" brush in brushes technique) can be done with the traditional grip but not with the matched grip. Unless someone can convince me that there are things that a player can do with traditional grip that they cannot do with matched grip, then I see learning two grips as redundant and not the best use of a student's time.
As always, YMMV.
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« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2002, 05:30 PM » |
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Hello All
I prefer matched grip,traditional feel's awkward.
I found myself , holding the stick's with My thumb, index & middle finger.And using little wrist movement, pivoting the sticks with My fingers & thumb......works best when playing softly..
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« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2002, 01:21 PM » |
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i play matched, just because that is how i was taught. on of my teachers told me it was better to play matched so your hands are playing the same thing, the same way. but i guess you just play whats comfortable for you.
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« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2002, 04:30 PM » |
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Matched. Never got into traditional.
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« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2002, 08:06 PM » |
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I play matched....always...and I am "schooled." It's kind of like Apple computers versus PC's. It's a matter of preference, style, and familiarity. I would agree with James Walker. I haven't ever been told or shown anything that one could do with a traditional grip that couldn't be done with a matched grip.
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« Reply #51 on: November 08, 2002, 09:53 PM » |
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i always tell myself that i am more precise with traditional grip, then i try the same stuff matched and there's not alot of difference.......they say you can get more power with the matched grip, but i can get a pretty good pop with traditional, too...since i have developed rheumatoid arthritis in my elbows i play more with my wrists. if i do fills and stuff i get more reach with matched grip. there is a difference in setting up your kit,as the angles are a little different per grip. look at the old swing drummers and their snare is dang close to vertical so they can get rim shots. i angle my kick mounted toms inwards and a sharper upwards slant with traditional, more away and flatter with matched. my nephew's high school band was in the orange bowl parade last year, plus he won a trophy in school for his work and he plays matched blindingly fast.
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« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2002, 09:28 PM » |
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Although I use traditional mostly, I find that I can do much smoother cymbal crescendos with matched.
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