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Hehe ok I wasn't sure where to stick this or what the question exactly was gonna be. You see i'm like 100lbs overweight (i'm 24/320lbs/6'1) to be exact lol. Ok anyhew do you think an overweight drummer like myself could play as well as drummers that are stick shaped. And does anyone actually know of any overweight drummers in the mainstream? I do know that you can play guitar just as good overweight good example is BB King  . Do you think that image is so important that a band with a chunky drummer wouldn't get signed on? Oh i'm working on loosing the weight anyhew and besides if i tour I couldn't afford to eat and thus would be skinny. Ok I will stop blabbin for now  .
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2003, 10:30 PM » |
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An overwright drummer can play as well as any other drummer... take a look at a guy like Dennis Chambers, he looks like he could lose a few pounds, and he 's a tremendous (no pun intended) player. Bonzo looked a little big too, and that didn't make him anything but amazing.
I think the only trouble overwight drummers could have (or any drummer in bad shape for that matter) is with a heavily athletic drumming style (continous double bass ala black metal), or with a long live set with the band.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2003, 10:44 PM » |
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Abe Laboriel Jr. is over weight. The guy from Hee Haw's house band was huge but he played. I dont think weight has much to do with talent. Stamina may be the only drawback.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2003, 11:13 PM » |
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Yeah I almost forgot about Dennis Chambers he is a pretty big dude.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2003, 11:45 PM » |
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I think there are more than just a few guys that have been overweight and have been astounding players.
However, I sure do miss Larrie Londin who died from health problems of being overweight. He also gave one of the most influential clinic demos I've ever seen about how to function in a recording studio.
Everybody's gotta watch their health. One thing I love about drummers is how they seem to have a comraderie and joy about seeing other guys play well. Of all the instruments I know of, drums seems to be where there is the least amount of 'back biting' going on. Not like we are all angels but I do believe there is a difference.
So therefore my brother Hickboy (since I don't know your name), I'd love to hear from you when you are flying through a song, kicking butt and taking names later. When you have a red hot groove burning up a concert or CD track. And I can't do that if you leave us too soon! So take care of yourself and groove into your old age. OK?
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2003, 11:22 AM » |
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Hehe ok I wasn't sure where to stick this or what the question exactly was gonna be. You see i'm like 100lbs overweight (i'm 24/320lbs/6'1) to be exact lol. Ok anyhew do you think an overweight drummer like myself could play as well as drummers that are stick shaped. And does anyone actually know of any overweight drummers in the mainstream? I do know that you can play guitar just as good overweight good example is BB King  . Do you think that image is so important that a band with a chunky drummer wouldn't get signed on? Oh i'm working on loosing the weight anyhew and besides if i tour I couldn't afford to eat and thus would be skinny. Ok I will stop blabbin for now  . First, if you are 6'1" and 320 lbs, you are more than 100 lbs overweight, IMHO, and you should devote yourself first and foremost to getting down to 180 lbs, that is if you would like to live a normal lifespan. Second, I agree that, other than potential physical limitations and conditioning, you should be able to play like anyone else. Duffy Jackson is about 6'0" and about 275 lbs and he's one of the most amazing high energy drummers I've ever seen. But, I think he would probably be even better if he weren't so heavy. Ratamatatt
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2003, 11:53 AM » |
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I do know that you can play guitar just as good overweight good example is BB King BB King also has to sit when he plays because of his weight AND because of the fact that he probably has circulation problems in his legs due to the diabetes that he has that was brought on by his obesity. I have diabetes in my family, but my doctor told me that my greatest risk was being overweight, not my family history. Not preaching!! Believe me, I've got my own foibles that I have to deal with. I have no way of saying if it will necessarily affect your playing in a negative way, but it's probably affecting your body in a negative way.
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2003, 01:04 PM » |
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Thanks for the concern and inspiration guys, ya there is definetly alot of risks being overweight  but it is slowly coming off, at my height i was 360 last summer so thats 40lbs gone. And Diabetes is a very real thing in my family. Ya my goal weight is about 200-220. 180 they say is 'ideal' but with my bone structure i would look like a toothpick hehe. Thanks again guys.
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2003, 03:47 PM » |
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Check out the movie New York, New York and watch Dick Berk then go buy some of his CDs, incredible technique. He must haved weighed 350 lbs. Thank God I just heard that he had surgery and took off quite a bit. I must add that Dick is a great guy also and got me quite a few good gigs in L.A. as a sub for him.
Check out some old Tiny Kahn about 450 lbs.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2003, 09:40 AM » |
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Abe Loboriel Jr..... yeah, the first time I saw him play I thought I was watching retired Cowboy's lineman and now jail-bird, big ol' Nate Newton.
Not to be wise because this is a very serious subject, I hope he goes for stress tests and cardiograms regularly.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2003, 08:01 AM » |
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i'm slightly overweight, it doesn't show unless i'm leaning over shirtless, which doesn't happen anyway. i gotta lose it but it's kinda hard.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2003, 12:25 PM » |
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it's ok hickboy, about 2 years ago when i first started my old band, i was topped out at 5' 10" 250 (my nickname in the band was "tubby") and so from both practicing about 4 hours a night and playing out, i was able to drop a good 30 or 40 lbs in 6 months. so i can relate. the only overweight drummer that i know of is a guy named Gene Hoglan of the death metal band DEATH. he was a good 300lbs+ and as far as i know, he plays without any problems.
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2003, 11:06 AM » |
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I don't think size seems to matter much...Vinnie Paul, Frank Arsenault, Chambers, Erskine, Carter Beaford, etc.
I'm a little overweight myself, but since I've been exercising regularly (about 5 months now) my stamina while playing has gone through the roof!
So to answer the question, imo, weight doesn't play a factor by itself - unless it's a sign of an otherwise sedentary lifestyle. Then you might be a little slower and not last as long.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2003, 12:43 AM » |
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I used to play a tour with a Dutch artist: "BIG" John Russell a.k.a. the Dutch Fats Domino...
That guy was HUGE!!! He once had to be towed on stage by a machine, because the stairs couldn't hold him. The bassplayer used to pick him up and drive him to the gigs. The guy had to put extra suspension on his car! John used to eat all our meals while we were soundchecking... so we all stayed thin. He could sing fine and he was famous enough for a two-gigs-a-week life, but he was appalling to see.... Not good for getting groupies!
I think weight will effect your making music as it affects everything in life... Some stuff gets harder when your big, and for some things it really doesn't matter. If your satisfied with both your own drumming and your own physique: stay put. Otherwise: start running!
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2003, 07:55 PM » |
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Cheap Trick had that kinda fat guy. I do not think it matters. It is all in your attitude.
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2003, 10:42 AM » |
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I can't believe the no one has mentioned Ed Shaughnessy or Bernard "Pretty" Purdie yet. Although I think Ed lost some weight.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2003, 02:55 PM » |
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Abe Laboriel, Dennis Chambers, Curt Bisquera, Duffy Jackson - I rest my case! Seriously though, I don't think it matters, for you're general health and well being, yes! Of course it's important, but for your playing.....no.
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2003, 12:54 PM » |
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I saw Buddy Miles a couple of years ago at a club here in Springfield, MO... he's a pretty hefty guy, but he put down a groove you could drive a Mack truck through. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2003, 02:18 PM » |
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One major consideration is setting up and breaking down!! That bending over has to be tough.
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