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Alright, it's time for this thread again.  I like to do this every so often because for many of us, it really provides a source of inspiration as well as a tool for goal setting. I'm currently working on the following: - Left hand development - exercises and rudiments with left hand lead and left hand accents. - rudimental snare solos from Wilcoxon's book, "The All American Drummer" - interpreting figures from Ted Reed's "Syncopation" as triplets spread out between two toms. Also interpreting figures literally while played over a samba ostinato with the feet. - brush solos from the "Brush Fire" book - selected pieces from Houghton's 'Styles' book. - dynamic independence (this is extremely difficult) OK, how about you guys? What is everyone currently working on/current practice routine?
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2003, 03:43 PM » |
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I work sporadically on Rick Beckham's "The Rudimental Drummer," a brutal book of modern rudimental torture - er - exercises. I don't practice a lot, but I put a lot of thought into what I listen to, as it affects my playing. Lately I'm listening to a lot of bebop from the late 50s and early 60s, something I haven't done in years. I'm also working on rekindling a technique that's gotten rusty for me: playing clean straight 8th notes with a brush in the right hand by sweeping back and forth (not striking), and improvising around it with bass, hihat, and cross-stick in a light bossa/latin style. When done right, it sounds like a shaker or a cabasa. But it's really hard for me now, even though I used to do it a lot. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2003, 04:51 PM » |
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Timpani Candide (Bernstein), Sibelius Symphony 6........not really practice but reading through the parts and thinking......and mostly thinking about mallets......whether it worked last time or whether I should change them or whether I could make a better choice.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2003, 04:52 PM » |
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hmm...
definitely the left hand, and single heel up bass work. wanna make both faster and controlled. my righty is always doing the more demanding stuff, and i feel unbalanced. same is true with my feet. heeldown is ok, but doesnt seem as fast as heel up stuff.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2003, 05:34 PM » |
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New Breed I and II Going back into rick lathams advanced funk studies Odd time signatures getting the left foot as fast as the right (aka doublebass) inreasing hand speed and rudiments more hihat foot coordination work advance my studies in jazz
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2003, 06:21 PM » |
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Besides listening to a lot of my own work lately ... no, I'm not egocentric, but consumed with updating my website's Demo page and preparing new samples for my presskit for which Keith (aka Mister_Acrolite) has GREATLY assisted me by lending his ears, making critiques and suggestions (thanks Keith) ... there hasn't been much time to practice. I have, however, been able to put a few hours in each day this past week on the following: - Basic time keeping and grooving with the metronome. Trying to deepen my pocket and remain more consistant through progressive drum fills.
- Playing along to the radio a lot; moving up and down the dial.
- Finishing up the last few pages of Future Sounds by Dave Garibaldi.
- Continuing to machete my way through Gary Chester's The New Breed. I plan to work out of that back until I die.
- Working with a variety of play-along CDs.
- Creating new fills and embellished grooves.
- Setting up my practice room so I can start recording myself again while I practice. I haven't done that in a long time.
- Tracking percussion grooves for my new practice loop CD ... scheduled to be released(?) ... only God knows!
- Redesigning and updating my press kit (promotional package).
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2003, 06:48 PM » |
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I subscribe to Direct-TV and get several music channels. My favorite practice method is picking a channel (such as contemporary jazz) and playing along. This gives me a variety of styles to become familar with and I find it very relaxing and entertaining. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2003, 09:12 PM » |
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Continuing to machete my way through Gary Chester's The New Breed. heh heh...me too  "machete"--that's good. Starting to open up my playing and working around the kit in a more natural way, working on fills, always fills...
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2003, 09:33 PM » |
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I'm working on time to have to even play. Winters bad. When I do get the time, i've been trying alot of four limb combinations and development. Keeping time with the hats has always been a weak spot for me personally. I just hope the weather breaks soon.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2003, 09:41 PM » |
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I'm working on a few things other than just farting around. First and foremost I've been working out of Marco Minne..whatever his name is's book "Progressive Interdependence: Beyond Independence." And I've been working on the book "Stick Control" (thanks to this forum). Finally, about every other day, I've been working out of the book "Progressive Independence" by Ron Spagnardi.
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2003, 07:37 AM » |
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Doug Tann's Forgotten Foot - I try to hit a pattern or two once a week.
Brushing up on my cover tunes...trying to cop some of Melissa Ethridge's drummers stuff (he's famous but I forget his name) Been jamming some Jeff Beck lately.
Just trying to keep the rust off, no serious gains. I also like to play dbl bass exercises with the click and have been doing some cross over patterns.
When I get my new house I'll be ALOT closer to my studio which will "support the cause".
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2003, 08:07 AM » |
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I'm working on trying to condense my practices in a way that I can still work on a lot of different material, but not take 4+ hours to do it.
As of right now, my extremely lengthy practice includes the following:
- Rudiments: Both hands and feet work on rudiments. - Double bass: Do exercises out of a book I have leading with all hands/feet combinations. Also have an endurance drill I do to increase speed/stamina. - Rhythm & Meter: I warm up with the artificial groupings exercise toward the start (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and then all combinations of those). I then work on one "etude" while playing an ostinato with the feet. After being comfortable with the piece, I move it around my kit. - Jazz: I work out of a few different books and work through about a page a day from each of them. - World Drumming: I work on about a page/section from each of three different styles - latin, african, and middle-eastern. - Sticking Patterns: I do one page per night with both my hands and feet. These are exercises with accents, doubles, etc. - Technique Patterns: Exercises to build finger strength/dexterity. - Left-Side Lead: Work on some more basic rock exercises with my left hand and foot leading. - New Breed: 1 pattern per day (with all variations). All melodies played against it. - Linear Time: Work on my more funky playing with this book. - Killer Fillers: Real basic figures, but it helps to get used to moving around the kit and building speed.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2003, 08:13 AM » |
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I play a lot to CD's and lately I've been working on my "groove". Steely Dan, Keb Mo, anything with Jim Keltner. I usually switch styles each time I sit down to do my CD playing. One night it's groove, one night it's fusion (Mahavishnu, Jeff Beck, Steve Morse), one night it's blues (BB King, Luther Allison, Son Seals), one night it's jazz (Monk, Miles), etc.
I've also been working on my double bass (with a double pedal). I don't play much db, so I like to work it out for a while to keep my muscles at least slightly in shape.
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2003, 08:53 AM » |
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STill working on left foot clave stuff, but lately I find myself working on my jazz ride technique.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2003, 11:50 AM » |
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New Breed I and II Going back into rick lathams advanced funk studies Odd time signatures getting the left foot as fast as the right (aka doublebass) inreasing hand speed and rudiments more hihat foot coordination work advance my studies in jazz
Evo, I saw a video of Rick Latham's AFS in the drum shop recently and thought about picking it up. Are you working out of the book? Would you recommend it or the video? Ratamatatt
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2003, 11:55 AM » |
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i should be finished johnny rabb's book jungle/drum and bass by the end of march.then i'll work on bozzio's ostinatos or marco minnemann's book.marco's book looks crazy but i've got to finish rabb's before i start anything else.
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2003, 11:55 AM » |
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Im working out of AFS myself as well, without the video though. It has some great material, and it takes quite some time to make most use of the book, so its a good investment anyway
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2003, 01:04 PM » |
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I've finally gotten around to starting the One Surface Learning book that I bought here at the Cafe. It's pretty basic stuff, but it's good to go back to the basics once in a while. And for someone like me whose reading skills are piss-poor, it's good exercise.
I've also been concentrating on hand-foot exchanges, ala Terry Bozzio's exercises from his first video.
I'd love to dig more into independence stuff, but I've barely got enough time to sit down behind the kit for anything other than gigs and rehearsals lately. Another thing I need to go back to is Clayton Cameron's brushes video. Ahh time... I need more hours in the day!
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2003, 01:39 PM » |
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New Breed I and II Going back into rick lathams advanced funk studies Odd time signatures getting the left foot as fast as the right (aka doublebass) inreasing hand speed and rudiments more hihat foot coordination work advance my studies in jazz
Evo, I saw a video of Rick Latham's AFS in the drum shop recently and thought about picking it up. Are you working out of the book? Would you recommend it or the video? Ratamatatt Ratt, i haven't yet gotten to the book. I worked on it about 5 years ago when i use to have a teacher. I think its a pretty good book. It has alot of pieces from ricks favorite drummers(many are med-hard), some challenging solos(solos? fills?). Its got alot of ideas in it that are good and some interesting fills that you can manipulate into your own. As far as the video, im not too sure. Id say if you could rent it, make your decision from there. Otherwise, i do suggest the book. edit** Then again the video may have added features and/or show you how each measure is played.
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2003, 10:42 PM » |
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My practice has lately been confined to working on my grip and left-hand independance, all on one of three practice pads I have for the sake of different durometers of surfaces. I've also picked up the brushes occasionally and worked on basic technique with those. I haven't been worrying too much about the pedals, as I don't really base my sound too much around the bottom end, although I should.
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2003, 04:03 PM » |
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at the moment I´m workin on double paradiddle with accents mix with triplet and so on. I try to mix lots of things together and repeat as often as i can. Especially I`m working on beats with no always continuous hithat / ride. Mostly i try to play offbeat. I think it s a very good way to get new rhythms... at second im train to get my left hand to the same speed level as my right and it should be in almost the same relaxed way. 
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2003, 01:10 PM » |
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Finishing up the last few pages of Future Sounds by Dave Garibaldi How is that book? I was considering buying it, but I don't know if it's worth it. Could you describe what it's like please?
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2003, 01:40 PM » |
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Yep, I want to know too! If it breaks down garibaldi's playing then im quite interested, he has so many beats i like (especially the opening to squib cakes)
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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2003, 06:15 PM » |
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Listening well enough to follow the flow when it changes so that I'm seemless. Leading with the left hand rather than right. Apologizing for being an Ass. and this: http://animaldreams.net/Petro.mp3Dave
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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2003, 06:24 PM » |
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Haha, Cameron. Changed your mind about posting a solo at musicianforums and decided to come here instead?
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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2003, 10:37 PM » |
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- The two Bop books by John Riley - Future Sounds & THe Funky Beat by Garabaldi - Conversations in Clave by H.Hernandez - New Breed by Chester - Essential Techniques by Ed Soph - Rick's Licks - Extreme Independence - Latin studies in books by F. Malabe, I. Berroa, M. Martinez, Robbey Ameen, Chuck Silverstein & E.Uribe - Advanced Funk Studies by Rick Latham - working on new speed techniques by Buddy Rich(via Jojo Mayer) and right hand thumb technique - Around the Drum Set (my own book exercises) - Double Bass Drum (my own book exercises) - Speed and Endurance (my own) - Left foot jazz independence (my own) - Single Bass drum (my own) - Playalongs by everybody and their brother - working on writing my own fusion project so practicing for that - AND MORE>>>>>>>>>YES, I have a lot of time to practice. From 8am-4pm - 6 days a week. Then, it's time to teach.
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2003, 12:05 AM » |
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Yep, I want to know too! If it breaks down garibaldi's playing then im quite interested, he has so many beats i like (especially the opening to squib cakes)
Isn't the beginningof that song in rick lathams book?
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2003, 01:07 AM » |
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I am currently working on my left hand coordination, and putting some effort in a better left foot (hi-hat). I just joined a new band, which plays harder rock than I was used to play. So I'm doing a lot of double bass stuff, and try to remember the grooves of all 32 (!!!) original songs the band plays. Have to get those tight in a month or two. Then we will be recording something like 15 songs. Probably 12 of them will be released at the end of the year, when our debut-CD hits the markets....  Erwt
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2003, 05:18 PM » |
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Haha, Cameron. Changed your mind about posting a solo at musicianforums and decided to come here instead?
No, actually I didn't. I haven't had time though, because of exams and solo and ensemble festival.
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2003, 05:25 PM » |
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Yep, I want to know too! If it breaks down garibaldi's playing then im quite interested, he has so many beats i like (especially the opening to squib cakes)
Isn't the beginningof that song in rick lathams book? yep it is!
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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2003, 01:44 PM » |
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As always, jazz, but as of recently... Phrasing and thinking of the ride pattern in 3/4, along with the jazz waltz pattern basics. I really should get into oddtime again, I touched on it a while back but should learn to do more complex rhythms there to furthur my ability to come up with oddtime rhythms on the spot... 
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« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2003, 02:05 PM » |
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I really should get into oddtime again, I touched on it a while back but should learn to do more complex rhythms there to furthur my ability to come up with oddtime rhythms on the spot... I got the guys in our band to incorporate a 13/8 at one point where we've just come out out of a 6/8, sort of to mix things up a bit. The crowd was sort of swaying and dancing to the 6/8 and when we got into the 13, they really went crazy! Everyone sort of let lose of the conventional styles they were used to got real tribal. It was so fricken cool! The way we do it is - 3 sets of three, then 2 twos. Dave
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« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2003, 02:10 PM » |
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I got the guys in our band to incorporate a 13/8 at one point where we've just come out out of a 6/8, sort of to mix things up a bit. The crowd was sort of swaying and dancing to the 6/8 and when we got into the 13, they really went crazy! Everyone sort of let lose of the conventional styles they were used to got real tribal. It was so fricken cool! The way we do it is - 3 sets of three, then 2 twos.
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Cool, I haven't played anything in really odd time signatures for a while. Used to jam with a fusion band way back when, we'd play in 5/4, 9/8, 11/8, and the one I COULDN'T feel, 19/8 (I forget the pattern). Another cool beat is a "rotating 8/8", i.e. 123 123 12 123 12 123 12 123 123 It turns into a very easy pattern but it's very cool.
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