I believe this was another topic but my question is sorta different. ya guys have probably checked out my double bass topics or whatever cause im a freak and i like asking lots and lots of questions. And i know for a fact there are varied heel up techniques. i have no problem with speed heel down cause thats the way i was taught. im trying to work on a new heel up technique not really applying to double bass but kinda helping it out in the long run. Tell if im wrong when i say this or tell me if any of you know what im talking about or if you share this technique. Two fellow drummers of mine are great at double bass. both no offense dont have the best endurance heh i believe i have great endurance i can play hours on hours without stopping a second and at fast speeds. well their fast heel up technique is like this (from what ive watched) this hold their leg up and basically use their feet and maybe a lil bounce from their leg. Now ive tried to do this but i know for a fact im not doing it correctly at all. if anyone knows what im talking about and can explain it in greater detail. or would like to share their technique, because i am looking for a new one.

http://community.drummercafe.com/index.php?board=8;action=display;threadid=2819

check that thread, it has a link to a site with a bunch of animations regarding pedal technique

I'm not expert on heal up playing, but, one technique that I've seen used very effectively is to sit further away from the snare and on the edge of your stool, place the ball of your foot just outside (closer to you) the middle of the footboard, and just lift and drop your leg.  Then, for double kicks, slide your toe back for the up stroke and forward for the down stroke (about 1 to 2 inches each way).  I've seen kats really fly with this technique.  They have tremendous power from the weight of their leg but also tremendous speed and control.  

I hope this was helpful.


Ratamatatt

or you could literally just move your body, snare, and hihat, to fit the natural fall of your legs.  easier to move me body, than my bass, or its annoying velcro'd bass pedal.

I don't play much fast double bass stuff, but I do a lot of doubles and triples and sometimes short bursts of 16th rolls and such.  I feel like to get adequate power you have to use your whole leg together.  The best way I can think to explain it is just like running in place but sitting down.  If you do it without using your upper leg you don't have much leverage, but when you use you upper leg there is a lot more force to be had.  I don't know if this makes any sense or not.  That is just how it feels to me.