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« on: January 25, 2002, 07:56 AM » |
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Do you know how to read Nashville notation? There is a unique way of notating music charts in Nashville that has been around for decades. It's fairly simple, but can be a bit intimidating at first glance, especially if it's thrown in front of you right as the tune is being counted off! There's a real beauty with the charts in that no matter what key you play in, the chart works. The form, tempo, count offs, chord progressions, ensemble figures, who takes a solo when or who fills when, and even the lead lines ... are all notated on this one piece of paper. I get calls from time to time to sub on drums for the Country Shows or Opry. They use Nashville charts exclusively; so if you can't read the charts, you don't get the gigs. Typically, the band rehearses for about an hour and a half before the performance ... and away you go! Kind of like riding a bull at a rodeo ...  You'd better hold on and pray to God you don't fall off because nobody is stopping for you! LOL
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2002, 08:05 AM » |
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I will say that in theroy, I can basically understand a N-ville chart, but I've never actually read one or performed one! It sounds like a great system, and from what I have read, it makes perfect sense, and seems "drummer-friendly"
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2002, 08:23 AM » |
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Bart,
Any chance you could post an example of "Nashville Notation?"
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2002, 08:42 AM » |
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The Nashville Charts are fairly simple to read and understand actually. The history behind it is that artists in Nashville would be sitting at a coffee shop, jot down some chord changes on a napkin ... then go to the studio to cut the tracks. Stories are that the players actually read off the napkins! LOL
So anyway, here's a basic example of a Nashville Chart.
Patsy Cline - CRAZY
I 1 4 (4 3m) (2m 5)
V 1 6M 2m 2m 5 5 (1 #1o) (2m 5) 1 6M 2m 2m 5 5 (1 2m) (#2o 1/3)
C etc. etc. etc.
This would appear in the middle of the page, then on the right hand side of the page you would see something like this, which shows the form of the tune and who takes the fills or lead breaks:
I - PN V - LG C - ST/FID V2 - ST TAG
There are a lot of other little markings, but I can't type them all here. I'll just have to send you a real copy sometime.
Here's the legend for all the symbols thus far: I = Intro V = Verse V2 = 2nd Verse C = Chorus TAG = Tag the song which is written out TA (not used here) = Turn around
The Numbers are the chords. This way, they can play in any key. If the are in the key of C ... then a 2m would be a D minor chord. Make sense?
Each number represents the chord and it lasts a full measure. If you have two chords in a measure, called a split-bar then you see something like this: (2m 5). They put the parenthesis around the chords to show they are in the same measure.
PN = Piano LG = Lead Guitar ST = Steel Guitar (Pedal Steel) FID = Fiddle
They have little figures that go over the chord numbers to show rhythm if there is a particular figure that needs to be played. So the page is very clean and easy to read. I didn't write out the Chorus, but you get the idea. What's nice is this is NOT Through Composed in that they write out every chord for every section. If you have a second verse, you'll know it by looking over on the right side of the page for the form. If the chords are the same as the first verse, then you just read the first verse a second time. If it's different they would print out a second verse in the middle of the page.
So, it's very simple, but a little tricky on the eyes. Especially when you move very quickly from song to song. The tempos are given at the top left of the page, as well as the meter, and the count off. For this tune, there is a 72 for the tempo, and this count off:
1 2 1 2 3 4
Whew ... okay ... I've got to stop. I need to just write and article on this and post it. Typing this all out and trying to get the symbols is too hard. It's basically just a Number Chart, but with a few little twists. I'll post a real manuscript chart soon, so you can see all the nuances.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2002, 10:57 AM » |
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Bartman, this is a great thread full of useful info. I believe there is a drum method book dedicated to reading Nashville charts.
Nashville....been there...what a great city!
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2002, 07:29 PM » |
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If you can find the name of the book that teaches Nashville Notation, I would love it if you would post it here at the Cafe. I'd rather refer people to that book that have me try to type all that out here! LOL Well, I just got back from my sub gig ... reading, you guessed it ... Nashville notation. Let me just say that I have been SPOILED with other gigs because the charts I read to not looked like chicken scratch. Oh ... my ... God! It was a NIGHTMARE!!! I gig you not ... it looked like someone had their three year old take the dictation for the charts. Numbers were slanted this way and that ... looking like someone was gradually loosing consciousness ... or maybe ... SMOKING WEED! That was for SiderealAnyway, I made it through with flying colors and the show owner came up to me and congratulated me ... which was nice. I may have a few more gigs lined up ... just from subbing this gig ... but we'll see. I learned a few more things ... or should I say "optional variations" with the notation ... which I don't know if it's standard or not. Interesting stuff.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2002, 06:58 AM » |
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I think if I become a little better piano player I would kinda get into this system a little.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2002, 07:29 AM » |
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Every church I've ever played with has used this method. It's just lyric sheets with that notation in the right hand corner.
I *always* add my own notes whenever I'm given the chance. I'll use familiar words to describe the feel at the top, note feel changes, mark important spots (especially for big fills) and notate important hits. I'll ask pointed questions before we play in hopes of being able to make these notes on the chart.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2002, 07:09 PM » |
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Bart, I have that book"Nashville Number System" at my studio at the music store...I can't remember the name of the drummer that wrote it but when I go in I will send you that info.It's a very good book that you can follow the charts with a CD that comes with it..I have been using it with my students. Ernie Durawa-Texas Tornados 
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2002, 07:41 PM » |
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Hello Once again! The book is "The Nashville Number System for drummers" by George Lawrence who happens to be a member of the drumring Bart.His web site for those of you who want to check out his books is www.drumguru.comorder from his web-site. 615-665-2198 published by Drumroom Publishing. I highly recommend it for you guys that want to learn the Nashville Number System.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2002, 07:54 PM » |
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AWESOME!!!
I never knew George had written a book on that topic!
We've got to get George to stop by sometime because I think he would be a big encouragement to the entire drumming community.
I'm wanting to do here in Dallas what he's done in Nashville; unite drummers and the drumming community, especially the pros.
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2002, 03:39 AM » |
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George's book received a positive review in the most recent issue of MD. I've sent him another request to join us. Bart, you should hit him up again!
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2002, 03:08 PM » |
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ive worked around country music for a looonngg time and i gotta say the number system is the neatest thing since sliced bread.its a little freaky at first untill ya get use to it.looked like chicken scratch to me the first time i saw it. i work for a country music show formerly outta branson mo.it makes it so easy to learn new material sometimes we dont even rehearse the tune. 
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2002, 09:19 AM » |
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Bill Liam (I think that's how you spell it) gave a brief explanation at the modern drummer festival a few years back, sounded neat, never actually encountered one yet.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2002, 04:04 PM » |
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Great thread. I've been trying to get a handle on the Nashville number system and have read through the book by Chas Williams. I was intersted in what Eddie Bayers had contributed to it primarily and still haven't been satisfied with what I've learned. Don't get me wrong I understand it from a guitar or bass players prospective, and it's great, but not from a drummers. There just wasn't enough information for me to sit down and play through the chart cold (tempo, style, kicks, etc.). But low and behold someone has considered the drummer..... Thank you George. I haven't seen the book yet but will have a copy soon. Unfortunately drumguru.com is under constrution. Thanks for the information.
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2002, 08:01 PM » |
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Having played sessions in Nashville and still using # charts what I would tell drummers is that you basically have to make your own chart. Or make your own marks (kicks, beats, etc..)on the # chart. Having sat in with Paul Leim (premeir Nashville session drummer) and watching him with # charts is that you have to work fast. The band will generally play through a chart several times and each time they get "closer" to the final production. AND, the drummer in turn makes his marks or kicks as they formulate. So, yeah, it's alot of chicken scratching, but a very useful and quick way to get through "production". 
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