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Author Topic: There is so much to practice, Where to start ?  (Read 740 times)
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Arismonty
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« on: February 10, 2003, 05:30 PM »

Hi, this is my first post here. I'm from Dominican Republic.

I've been taking drum clases for about a year and last saturday I finally got my first drumkit. I use to play with some friends on weekends, so my real practice is going to the music school 2 hours a week and practicing rudiments on my bed along with music. I'm going to get a metronome, don't worry about that.

A little about what I have done: first learned drum notation (and I'm continously reading music), after a month then moved to actually to the drums playing basic ryhtms and practicing rudiments on the various subdivisions; Also practiced a couple of Reed's Syncopation exercises and recently started practicing with "The New Breed"). Me and my schoolmates have memorized and practiced a bunch of Latin patterns (Claves, cascara, mozambique, bell rythms) and we also play tambora (A dominican percussion instrument used on merengue, our national rythm/ group of ryhtms)

Now that I have my drumkit, I have a lot of things going in my mind, I can picture myself spending the rest of my life practicing !!!

In contrast, some not-music-educated drummers here still ask my teacher what more he has to practice, because they can't think of anything more !  they don't even now what is an 8th note and play in gigs !!!

What I'm looking for is some advice other than my teacher's, basically when do I know I don't have to practice something I already do well Huh

I appreciate anything you have to say.
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Arismonty
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2003, 05:34 PM »

PS.: The five minute lesson "The Fine Art of Practice" helps a lot, but I want to have some "live" feedback.
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Han Steevo
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2003, 06:11 PM »

What I'm looking for is some advice other than my teacher's, basically when do I know I don't have to practice something I already do well Huh

When you *never* screw it up and can play it with any limb leading.
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alanwatkinsuk
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2003, 07:31 PM »

Firstly, the GOOD news.  Welcome to the Drummer Cafe which is becoming truly international.

Secondly, the BAD news (or at least as conveyed by Very Old Chap) is that there are 26 rudiments (and there are some disputes about this, see other posts) and you can cut down on the practicing when you can play all of them well starting on either hand without thinking about it.

Don't despair. EVERYONE started out like you. I come from a different world and a different era but so far as I know independence of hands and a good wrist technique are the key to good drumming in whatever type of music you play.

Master the rudiments with either hand and you can play any of the "add ons" or variations without too much trouble.

For me personally a good roll is still the hardest thing to do whether single stroke, open, triple or multiple bounce. I also happen to believe (and other members of Drummer Cafe may challenge this) that if you can get a good sound on any of those you won't have too many problems with any other rudiments.

Don't run before you can walk would be my old fashioned advice.

Welcome, anyway.  Most people on here are STILL learning.

Kind regards,
Alan M. Watkins

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alanwatkinsuk
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2003, 07:37 PM »

PS: There are some MARVELLOUS players on here in all types of music and I am sure that if you ask for advice or help they will willingly come forward.

So ask...........

Kind regards,
Alan M. Watkins
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Arismonty
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2003, 08:54 PM »

Thank you very much, Han and Alan

I suppose there is no other way to develop all that than doing one thing at a time.
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Han Steevo
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2003, 10:03 PM »

PS: There are some MARVELLOUS players on here in all types of music and I am sure that if you ask for advice or help they will willingly come forward.

^^^ I'm not one of those  Grin

I'm still quite horrible and probably will be for some time.
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Arismonty
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2003, 10:19 PM »

What style of music do you like the most and why ?
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2003, 08:11 AM »

There's a lot to be said for improvising.  Just play along with records or your friends and make it up as you go along.

If you practiced for a year before getting your kit, you already have far more self dicipline than almost anyone else learning to play.

If you have the latin patterns figured out, you're way ahead of the game.  Now if you can learn to play them while using all four limbs and improvising, you'll have it made.

It also helps to spend some time studying a style that is completely unfamiliar to you; some style of music that you almost never hear on the radio and that none of your friends listen to. In my case (living in Canada), I'm studying Salsa percussion.  You might want to study the Blues or Country Western.  Those musics are a long way from Merengue.
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Ratamatatt
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2003, 11:59 AM »


Now that I have my drumkit, I have a lot of things going in my mind, I can picture myself spending the rest of my life practicing . . .

What I'm looking for is some advice other than my teacher's, basically when do I know I don't have to practice something I already do well . . .

I appreciate anything you have to say.

You've got it right, if you want to be an artist, you will be practicing for the rest of your life.  And there are certain things, like rudimental development that you will practicing the rest of your life.  I think every drummer in this forum will admit that the first rudiment they learned was a double stroke roll and that, to this day, they still practice it.

As a practical matter, there are some things you can work on that will help develop the skills you need.  (I have no idea what your skill level is, but if you are able to do any of the exercises in the new breed, I would say you are not a beginner).  In any event, one of the most helpful things that I did (in addition to the usual method books), was to play along with recordings that I liked.  If the level was too advanced for me, I would work on it until I got it.  Another good exercise is to pick a radio station that plays music you like and improvise to every song that comes up for an hour and do the best you can no matter what.

Ratamatatt
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Arismonty
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2003, 10:44 PM »

Thanks for your tips.

I consider myself a beginner, because I have more things to learn than to teach.
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