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« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2002, 05:39 PM » |
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Has anyone tried Vater's version of the HotRods? "AcouSticks" They're wrapped with slats of nylon for even better cymbal sound. I love nylon! . . . now that sounds kinky.
I tried making my own rods before too, because I couldn't justify spending the outrageous markup. I even got the electrical shrink wrap. Hair dryers don't do the job when it comes to heating it, and buying a dedicated unit just for rods kinda defeats the purpose of making them yourself. (unless you're an electrician) Anyway, there IS a difference in the sound between homemade and manufactured. Could be the quality of the dowel stock. Mine was standard Home Depot.
For sticks I'm using Vater Rock - Nylon tip. They are a long stick and I like the heft of them. Also, the bead is almost round, and the combination of round and nylon sound SO good on cymbals IMO.
I've tried the Vic Firth 2BN 's ( ;)nice choice, rudibass2) and I really like the balance. The Omar Hakim signature is also very nice. . . again, round and nylon-tipped.
For a lighter sound and feel I have some short ProMark 3A 's. I wish I could find them with a nylon tip, but I don't think they make them.
How about the Johnny Rabb Rhythm Saws? It's kind of a cool effects stick. It's a very quick and passable guiro if you hold it against an LP block and scrape.
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« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2002, 06:48 PM » |
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Has anyone tried Vater's version of the HotRods? "AcouSticks" They're wrapped with slats of nylon for even better cymbal sound. I love nylon! . . . now that sounds kinky. I use the VATER AcouSticks as well as the VATER Whips which are kind of like Blasticks ... but slightly different. |
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« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2002, 02:02 PM » |
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I use Vater Piccolo. These are thick sticks with a short neck and a ball tip. These are made from maple and are very light even though they are really thick sticks. I also purchased a pair of Rikki Rocket  Bottle Neck sticks made by Johnny Rabb. They are suprisingly very comfortable. PS. I too own a pair of Hot-Rods. I like 'em  |
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« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2002, 04:22 AM » |
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No jeers from the Peanut Gallery?
Don't any of y'all ( I was in Austin yesterday) have DSL yet. Sorry Hubley, no time to see your band play on 6th St. Maybe next time.
Tough room...I thought Toledo would crack somebody up.
Do I have to invert a paradiddle to get any respect around here?
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« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2002, 07:41 AM » |
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Hey Felix, That's true, I never commented on Toledo. I found it amusing, I kept thinking of George Carlin's "Toledo Window Box" throughout the tune. Btw, I have a cable connection, fwiw. -- Rob And yes Felix, I'll respect you ... in the morning  |
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« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2002, 10:35 PM » |
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Do I have to invert a paradiddle to get any respect around here? -HAha....nice, Felix.
Very awesome site here, guys. My original skepticism (for ANY internet forum/chat) immediately crashed to a halt after reading thru many of these subjects/replies.
Hotrods....firestarters. I have three pairs of Hotrods and can't remember a moment when I ever thought they were a great idea. The usual fans of Hotrods seem to be everyone BUT the drummer in smaller stage situations. I'm sure they have their applications...I personally have yet to realize what they are. The cymbal sounds are washed out and delayed on a crash..very poor definition on rides and typically clumsy sounding on toms.
My tendency when using them is to overcompensate for this lack of dynamic balance by playing cymbals harder...although the sound is still washed and the whole point for using them in the first place is defeated in the process. This is to say nothing about futile attempts for any roll more intricate than a double stroke.
I do enjoy them for giving a different vibe on a melodic solo drum piece (for kiks), but that's about it. If anyone has any suggestions on other applications I'd be interested in hearing about them.
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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2002, 04:58 AM » |
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Since I am soooooo open minded (or schizo as the Dwarf likes to put it) I am trying to justify hot rods myself.
I am a horrible brush player, but there is one brush technique that I have a knack for. It is when one playes a figure 8 pattern with the left hand and comps with everything else...I guess it's a ballad brush pattern or something...anyways.
I'm sorta toying with the idea of utilizing hot rods with this technique...but I just keep hearing their sound in my head and I don't know how in the world it is going to sound hip to me.
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« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2002, 06:59 AM » |
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Felix, I kinda doubt that hot rods will be any good with a swish technique. Maybe a brush in one hand and a hot rod in the other. As for hip - if it ain't hip now then make it hip! Do it with conviction and others will follow. People are like sheep (minus the wool), all they need is a good dog to tell them where to go -- Rob |
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« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2002, 09:19 AM » |
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Glad to hear your thoughts...hip is relative I suppose anyways. The chances of me picking up a pair of those things again and then playing a brush pattern are slim to nil anyways.
Too many other cool things to focus on. I should be trading some stocks.
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« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2002, 09:23 AM » |
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Recently decided I don't like nylon tips any more, don't know why, getting old and crochety I guess. Now that dents in cymbals are de rigueur, I want to hear wood on bronze. No more smooooth cymbals and high-pitched nylon "ping" for me. Used Furth 5As for a long time but just got turned on to Rabb 5A Straightnecks. For me, these things are twice as alive in my hand as Vic's finest. Make the Furths feel like clubs. Love 'em. (But I have to say I find Mr. Rabb's "rhythmsaw" thing a bit - shall we say - undignified?)  Not my cuppa tea at all. Oh, and in contrast to Felix, I have been trying to get more serious about brushes. I like the Furth Heritage brushes with the rubber handle. I just got some of the Pro-Mark Clayton Cameron brushes, too, but haven't tried them yet. (Since I like Mr. Cameron's video. Although the slow motion parts seem a bit redundant. And @$%# slow!) |
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« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2002, 01:21 PM » |
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I like pizza. Seriously.... I really like pizza. But I can't eat pizza every day. sometimes I want a steak.
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« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2002, 04:20 AM » |
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I wouldn't tell your gf that.
where the heck have you been? YOu know the more I like someone the more irritating I am right?
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« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2002, 07:21 AM » |
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So Felix, I guess you must really love the people on this board -- Rob |
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« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2002, 09:17 AM » |
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So Felix, I guess you must really love the people on this board LOL! yeah baby, feel the love... are we still talking about drum sticks? |
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« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2002, 03:39 PM » |
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Figure I'll chime in to this old post...
I've been using ProMark's "The Natural" series, 2B, out of a dislike for shiny slick surfaces.
Just recently, I got a pair of Rikki Rockett's Bottleneck sticks from Johnny Rabb (5B), and I really like them. Nice balance, and the grip is very comfortable. Wish they made a nylon tip, but you can't have everything.
Good to be here.
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« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2002, 07:02 PM » |
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ok, flame suit on... vic firth-buddy rich |
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« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2002, 03:33 AM » |
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Buddy's sticks feel so strange...the shoulder on those things feel incredibly out of balance...like too heavy.
I just found my fav sticks...I have to order them direct from Switzerland:
Agner LA Fusions- I love them.
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« Reply #57 on: March 19, 2002, 06:21 PM » |
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I'm still looking for a stick I really like. until then I'll stick with buddy's. sorry for the bad pun.  |
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« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2002, 10:46 AM » |
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Used to be a Vic Firth 5A. Now I'm a Vic Firth 7A. My tutor always used to have really narrow sticks and I used them here and there. I decided that I would make a compromise between the 5A's and those chopstick things he used to changed to 7A's. Been using them about three years now. Also use Vic Firth brushes and some bright orange Flix sticks.
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« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2002, 02:32 AM » |
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Okay, I'm ready for any flying dirt that this reply might throw up!!!!!
I use Promark, Phil Collins signature models. They're like a 3A only shorter, about 14 1/2 inches long, with a round bead. I'd prefer a nylon bead but they don't make them like that. For some reason I find more control with a shorter stick, I used to use Vic Firth 3As and used to cut about an inch of the bottom!I use the same sticks, whatever I'm playing and have found them very versatile.
I also use Hot Rods and Vic Firth wire brushes.
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