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« on: February 10, 2002, 09:13 AM »

I was in the process of posting a LONG thread on TheVibe.net and it crashed my browser! Ahhhhh ....

So I'll just post here and hope James can help me.

To make the story much shorter: I have a cracked rail on the frame of my Deagan Commander II vibraphone, which occured a number of years ago. I stage hand was thinking he was doing me a favor by transporting the instrument from the venue ... back to me ... without my permission or foreknowledge. I walked outside of my studio to see him rounding a corner ... my vibes once in the back of his pickup ... watching the instrument fly through the air, landing perfectly  ... ON THE BARS!!!  It just laid there, with legs in the air, like a piece of percussive roadkill.

I'm debating on whether or not to replace the wood rail. It's been patched, but would like to REALLY fix it. Since it's no longer mint condition I figure what the heck. The motor is longer able to be mounted properly because it ripped out a section of the wood as well. Remounting it is not acceptible due to alignment issues.

Any thoughts? What would you do?

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2002, 09:58 AM »

Bart,

It has been a while since I've gotten a close look at a Commander II vibraphone.  Even if you can remove the damaged rail from the frame and replace it with a new cut of wood, replacing all of those pegs is going to be a major pain in the behind (get your drill press warmed up!).

FWIW, I refinished the frame of my ProVibe a few years ago, and I removed the rails from the end panels in the process - cracking one of the rails, but it was one of the inner ones adjacent to the damper bar, so the cosmetic significance is minimal.  It was a matter of me removing the screws connecting the rail from the end panel, and then knocking it loose with a mallet (woodworking mallet, obviously, not a vibes mallet!) - whatever glue they used didn't put up that much resistance.  Perhaps the same thing is possible with the Deagan?  If you can do that, then 1) cutting a piece of wood to fit won't be that difficult, and 2) you can buy the pegs from Century mallet, I'm sure.

Have you contacted Gilberto Serna about this?  ( 773.248.7733 )  I'm sure you know already, Bart, of Gilberto's association with the Deagan company, and the fact that his Century Mallet company is in the old Deagan factory in Chicago.  At most, I suspect you'd only need to ship the frame to Gilberto, since I'm sure he has the original spec's for the instrument on file.  If the rail can be removed from the frame, perhaps he could just make you a new rail, and ship it to you, leaving the installation to you in the process?

Another option would be Brian Stotz' Repaircussion shop up on Rochester.  I don't have the number handy, but I'm sure you can find an ad for him in Percussive Notes.  I've not made use of Brian's services myself, but his reputation for doing good quality work is outstanding.

I'd call Gilberto before Brian, ONLY because you're dealing specifically with a Deagan instrument - go to the country's top expert, and if he can't help you, contact Brian.

I'd take another stab at posting to thevibe.net - there are a number of Deagan owners who are regulars on the board, and maybe one of them could offer their perspective - as much as I'd like to have an old Deagan in my arsenal, it doesn't seem to be in the cards for me at the moment...

If you can't find Brian's Repaircussions number anywhere, let me know - I'll see if I can dig it out of my files here.  And if you need any help dope-slapping that "helpful" stage-hand, I'll look into flights from Hartford to Dallas...  Wink ... you don't do that to anyone's instrument, but ESPECIALLY an old Deagan!!

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2002, 10:15 AM »

Yeah, I know Gilberto and Brian.

Century Mallet has tuned my bars before, and even did some work on an very old, 1908 Deagan Xylophone I once had. They were able to pull the xylophone bars out of the vault and replace one bar with the same aged wood as the original bars; amazing.

From what I heard, over a year ago, Gilberto was retiring. Has that not happened?

At any rate, I don't want to put money into having someone else work on it. Material is one thing, labor is another. Perhaps if it were a bigger issue, I may think differently ... but at this point the instrument is workable ... just not in tip top condition.

I'll keep you posted. And speaking of posts. Yes, the idea of pulling the posts just scares the crap out of me. They can bend so easily ... and it won't be fun having to mess with them. I may want to consider getting new posts for the replacement rail.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2002, 11:09 AM »

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From what I heard, over a year ago, Gilberto was retiring. Has that not happened?

I heard that rumor as well - but the last I heard, there was no truth to it.  To the best of my knowledge, Century Mallet (and Gilberto) are still up and running.

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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2002, 11:19 AM »

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I heard that rumor as well - but the last I heard, there was no truth to it.  To the best of my knowledge, Century Mallet (and Gilberto) are still up and running.

I may be wrong, as it was quite some time ago, but I thought I heard this from Gilberto himself. Not that Century Mallet was closing, but that Gilberto himself was retiring. At any rate, if he's still there, we are all the better for it! He's a great guy and an incredible craftsman; not to mention his wealth of knowledge on mallet instruments.
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