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« on: March 20, 2003, 03:12 PM » |
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i am recording a demo with my band this weekend but my question is how would u guys suggest going about doing it?
do we record the whole lot together as a band or do we do it seperately?? and if seperately what order should we record the parts in??
thanks for any help
will
ps: if it helps we have been a band for about 15 months so we are pretty tight
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2003, 05:44 PM » |
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I prefer live recording by far... ideally, only overdubbing vocals, lead guitars, and some sound effects afterwards.
The live vibe a band gets is priceless.
If that is not an option, then start by recording bass and drums together. This still gives you some live playing.
Anyways, a demo doesn't have to sound pristine clear, or perfect, so I'd go for live playing, to display the band over the production values. (that is, if the studio guys would rather record you separately to get a better sound.)
I've done only a couple of recorded stuff though, my opinion comes from that. I'm sure Mr Acro and Bart can share their experienced views.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2003, 07:38 PM » |
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id go for live as well. ive spent most of my recording years doing demos for bands and it seems that with a few exceptions, a bands vibe between all the members really translates better when your all at it all at once. the exceptions are with really REALLY together bands and well experienced studio dogs.
one option if you have the tracks, is to have the band play all together, but consider the guitars as scratch tracks that youll overdub later. that way you only have to worry about the performances of one or two folks at a time.
but the trooper is right. it doesnt have to be perfect. getting the material across well is priority, then recording quality.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2003, 08:19 AM » |
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Much of it may be on the limitations of the studio and your budget. Most studios will do what you, the client, want.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2003, 08:27 AM » |
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I've had some good luck with live recording but everyone is plugged into a click. We did a jazz thing after the rock thing which benefited from the click and it work out ok...I just turned the click off before we went into the "fast" jazz break. fun stuff
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2003, 09:18 AM » |
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cheers guys
the only problem is(i found out today) we can only do 2 tracks at a time(luckily i can use e-drums so i can do it stereo),
so with this new info what do u recommend?
my band reckons we should do it all seperate playing the parts through headphones, but i thought best to get some professional's point of view
thanks
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2003, 09:45 AM » |
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two tracks at a time huh. well, then my second thought is the way to go.
everyone play at once, but only record one instrument at a time. that way youll all be locked in together and noone will have to worry about screwing up except the person tracking.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2003, 02:26 PM » |
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two tracks at a time huh. well, then my second thought is the way to go.
everyone play at once, but only record one instrument at a time. that way youll all be locked in together and noone will have to worry about screwing up except the person tracking.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2003, 03:12 PM » |
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two tracks at a time huh. well, then my second thought is the way to go.
everyone play at once, but only record one instrument at a time. that way youll all be locked in together and noone will have to worry about screwing up except the person tracking.
I'm with 563 too. I have done that myself, with good results. One word of advice though. If the song has any stops, breaks where the band isn't playing, etc, use a metronome. Those can definitely screw up the overdubbing process for the other members of the band. Good luck! |
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2003, 03:15 PM » |
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When we recorded a demo, sound was an issue, as well as availability of the players.
We decided to lay down the drums as soon as possible, as this was the only loud part of the operation. I knew the songs forwards and backwards (as one should upon recording) and only needed some sense of rhythm. So, it was just me playing along with the lead guitarist who played on an unplugged electric guitar. We had the drums for two songs down in about 20 minutes (not to perfection, mind), and everything else went from there; at which point I was not present most of the time. I suppose this approach is a bit of a variation of Tony's.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2003, 03:17 PM » |
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Er, 563's approach. Quote messed me up.  |
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2003, 03:35 PM » |
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thanks guys i knew u'd have the answer  will |
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2003, 06:10 PM » |
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i spent a fair amount of time recording other peoples demos  it was my impatience with that that lead me away from recording as a career |
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2003, 12:19 PM » |
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started recording today. we tried to do it all playin at the same time but ended up with loads of feedback so we went the way of the la pro's and did it all seperately.  anyway we laid down the drum track first and then bass then guitar then 2nd guitar then keys then vocals and it is all sounding pretty good:) it did take a few go's but eventually the timing stuck and we got 2 songs completely done and they are sounding good:  hopefully we will get some more done in the next few weekends and have it ready before the 9th of april will ps: if anyone is interested in hearing our stuff then check out our website in about 2 weeks time. www.trans-pose.cjb.net |
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2003, 08:56 AM » |
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It's great it all went well... still, they could at least plugged the bass player through the table for you to use as a reference... but I'm glad to hear it worked out.
Two weeks more will see the end results. Cheers!
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