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Author Topic: Pipe Band Drumming Enthusiasts?  (Read 992 times)
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Tom Foote
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« on: April 22, 2003, 09:58 AM »

Wondering how many of the forum members have experienced pipe band drumming?  What are your thoughts, experiences and perceptions on this area of rudimental drumming?
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2003, 10:15 AM »

I marched in a pipe band for aout 7 months here in Baton rouge. It was ok- Is a different approach. they play alot of press or buzz rolls. The snares are never "clean". They do a lot of strange sticking, thats the only thing that makes it interesting. The drums are real cool- snares under both heads. If you think 42 strands are sensitive, just wait. With all that said, It was a unique experience, but i dont miss it. BTW- I hope you look good in a skirt Grin
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Tom Foote
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2003, 10:48 AM »

Part of why I was asking the question was to find out what other percussion people perceive the pipe band idiom to be.  Unfortunately, many have not been exposed to the average competitive level for the art.  Most of the wierd sticking you see around is not the norm.  Most of the rudimental play is based on traditional and swiss elements.

We who play at a high level in the idiom are very interested in raising the level of play overall.  There are several opportunities for one to see and hear the top level of play in concert and instructional formats.

We would love to introduce this interesting facet of rudimental drumming to any and all percussionists with great chops and a good feel for swing.

Check out these links.
http://www.sfupipeband.com/
http://www.78thfrasers.net/
http://www.bagpiping.org/
http://www.milwaukeeschoolpiping.com/
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2003, 04:24 PM »

I did see the U.S. Air Force pipe band at the state fair a few years ago.  It was a good show overall, with an interesting drum feature mid-way through.  

If you would be so helpful, may I please have your take on what seems to me a different version of the orthodox grip and various stick weights abound within the classification of "pipe band stick"?  Also, a previous poster here claimed to own a pair of balsawood pipe band drumsticks.  Are such sticks, to the best of your knowledge, extant?
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Tom Foote
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2003, 05:41 AM »

Like any other instrument there are numerous variations in technique as far as the grip goes.  

For traditional grip players, one major variation is the developement of a left hand grip that envolves the thumb on top of the stick as opposed to the forefinger wrapped over the stick.  This allows for better closed (buzz or tizz) roll stick response.  It also make it easier to perform rebound movements.  Very smooth and relaxed effect.

As far as the stick issue, I currently play a premier kp2 model at about a 60-62gm weight.  There were some very light models available in previous years.  I don't know of a balsa stick ever being made.  I do have a single stick (Kirkwood model late 1960s) that is made from a very porous and light material that has a hole running the length of it.  Must have been a real manufacturing nightmare.

Generally the pipe band sticks are much lighter that most Drum Corps people are used to.

I noticed while at PASIC last year that many of the set drummers were employing this fluid and relaxed  approach to the traditional grip in thier play. Cool
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2003, 07:45 AM »

After years of DCI-style rudimental drumming I was introduced to pipe band drumming about 4 years ago.  The style is so challenging and enjoyable it has become my primary focus.

The style is absolutely a blast to play and it lends itself well to further developing drumset chops and feel as well.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2003, 10:24 PM »

Thanks Tom, for the information.  It is a great help.  Smiley
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ChinaCymbol
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2003, 03:46 PM »

I knew this guy who was a really good pipe drummer, great sticking, i couldn't wait to get him to a set, turns out he couldn't even keep a beat, just thought i'd share that
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Peter
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2003, 04:43 PM »

I have been doing pipe band drumming for about 9 years, and have loved every minute of it.

Tom, your name is very familiar who do you play for?  Or maybe I saw you on 'Sidedrum'.

I do remember the post about the balsa wood sticks, and like Tom I have never seen such a creature.

Scott, how are your 'Duthart triplets coming along.  Did the exercises I sent you awhile back help(from Dunsire's)
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Tom Foote
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2003, 06:17 AM »

I play with Doug Stronach in Peel Police.  I played with Reid Maxwell in the Frasers in the 80's and Drew Duthart in Toronto Police in the 90's.

Currently I teach corps and individuals internationally, and judge contests in the Northeast US.

Maybe we have crossed paths?

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Peter
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2003, 11:54 PM »

We may have crossed path's at the beer tent last time Peel was at Pleasanton.  I played with Monterey Bay at that time, but now I play with Prince Charles.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2003, 02:55 PM »

Played with the Mataura Kilties a local grade 4 band involving many generations of families from the district.
The band having a strong pride has survived with ups and downs. Recently cleaned up at the Nationals and has been relagated to Grade 3. From age 12 i played until a couple of years ago when i retired to commit time to my family, and to give my ears a rest. Grin
Still playing in a weekend covers band and support the Kilties.
The time with the pipe band community has been a treasure with many friends made and a welth of drumming experience.
Rudiments have been helpful on the kit but more importantly i found learning melodic rhythms,playing in different time and keeping good time have been the most benificial for playing the kit.
Highlights were being taught by an A grade drummer,attending an Alex Duthart clinic in 1977 which was a timely inspiration at 17 to keep at it. And of course the bus trips home from competitions (the ones i can remember) Grin
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