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...Mick Fleetwood?!?!
while in my car, i was listening to a demo of myself tracking on a few of my bud's new song ideas. and, this afternoon, while listening to an NPR review of Fleetwood Mac's new CD, i suddenly realized my playing was eerily similar to Mick Fleetwood! my groove, and especially my fills seemed to be straight outta his bag o' tricks.
i'm NOT an avid listener by any stretch of the imagination, tho, Lindsey Buckingham is a great songwriter, but it was quite a weird epiphany.
i guess i should be happy, but oh well...
anyone else find some oddball references in your own playing? ever have that strange feeling you play like someone you dont really listen to, but somehow ended up playing a bit like them?
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2003, 07:06 AM » |
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During the 80's, while in high school, I was turned on to Billy Cobham by my teacher. I went through a period for about 2 years where all I did was listen to and play along with his stuff from Mahavshnu Orchestra and his solo records. After finally burning out, I hardly listened to any of that stuff for years and years. The only BC I have bought in the past 5 years has been Jazz is Dead. About 6 months ago, I was listening to "Power Play" (A great record) and was really blown away at how much that 2 year period of playing influenced my overall approach and style. Listening to rough cuts of my band's CD, I can hear how much of an influence that BC had on me.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2003, 07:18 AM » |
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I had a similar experience. Mine was a John Bonham obsession. For a good two years, I labored over everything I could get my hands on. Import albums, bootlegs and of course, all the studio albums.
The breaking point for me was watching their Atlantic records reunion with John's son, Jason. While I was watching them play on stage (and playing along in my mind) I knew, almost exactly, what fills Jason was going for while watching. And he was improvising many. It was weird.
That was enough for me, and I can't recall playing along to a Zeppelin record since.
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2003, 08:19 AM » |
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Check out the quote I use on my posts..."Sonny Payne Lives!!". There is a reason for that. Many decades ago, when I was in high school and college I loved the Count Basie Band and played in school "big bands" that played a number of their arrangements. I loved Sonny's playing which I thought fit perfectly with Basie's music of that period. I not only used many of his fills and "comping" ideas in my big band playing, when I'd hear something new he had played on I'd feel like the way he played it was exactly the way I would have played. That is, I thought he and I thought alike musically. Please note I'm not suggesting my talent was in any way comparable to his. Just that we seemed to be "kindred spirits" musically.
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2003, 10:12 AM » |
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well,
i guess i should re-edit my post, cause i was kinda asking if you found any "oddball" influences in your playing.
like i said, i'm NOT a mick fleetwood drum worshipper by any stretch of the imagination, and yet, i couldnt help but feel that my current approach to the set sounds like his!
make sense?
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2003, 10:20 AM » |
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kinda happened to me on guitar. i got a few Popol Vuh cds (soundtracks to Herzog films) and heard a great deal of similarity between the guitar work on those albums and in my work. that was kinda kooky.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2003, 12:38 PM » |
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I never listed to Elton John for the drums, but somehow Nigel Olsson's fill vocabulary creeped into my playing. I guess it goes back to how melodic and memorable John's songs are. Olsson has a very good ear for that stuff, too.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2003, 11:13 AM » |
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Like PDrums, I had the Mitch Mitchell influence rather heavy a few years ago. Right now, I seem to be going through a bit of a Larrie Londin phase; that is to say, I'm taking lessons via his recordings  . I also tend to appreciate the playing of all the drummers in Nashville on country recordings from maybe '72 to the present.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2003, 05:04 PM » |
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i was listening to a recording of one of my bands in my grandpa's antique store. a customer, and older lady, walked in and said "is that cozy cole?" i said that it was a recording of a band i was working on.
now i have heard OF cozy cole, but never heard cozy cole.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2003, 07:21 AM » |
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I get told that I sound like Carter beauford all the time, I think it's the left hander playing opened handed thing. I don't listen to Dave Matthews that much but when I do I can see why people say what they do. I'm not saying I'm as good as CB but I can hear similarities.
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2003, 03:50 PM » |
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I probably sound like Meg White.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2003, 06:09 PM » |
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I probably sound like Meg White.
Hey, I'll say this -- That was one hell of a snare sound she had on Conan not too long ago. Of course, plenty of people know how to tune drums in NYC....
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I'm not a particularly slow player, yet I don't play fast. I play half-fast.
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2003, 03:49 PM » |
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I probably sound like Meg White.
Yeah, but you're probably not as cute.  A couple weeks ago during a rehearsal jam session, one of my guitarists was playing this nice, heavy, bluesy riff and I started playing along, stopped, and then started again in half-time. After a couple verses of this, he stopped playing and asked me, "So, are you just gonna do your Bonham impression all night?" I like Bonham, but I haven't actually sat down and listened to Led Zeppelin since, well, ever.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2003, 03:35 PM » |
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Actually, I'll hear something before the days I even thought about playing drums (just a couple of years ago) and I'll listen to the drum parts today. I think to myself, that's how I would have played it. Especially Bonham. I guess the guy is pretty much ingrained into 90% of the drummers alive today. Maybe that's why his playing is so familiar, cause everyone has borrowed from him to some degree.
Or if you hear a new song with a guitar intro, no drums, sometimes I can predict what the drummer is gonna do. I guess that might be a good sign.
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2003, 04:00 PM » |
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Or if you hear a new song with a guitar intro, no drums, sometimes I can predict what the drummer is gonna do. I guess that might be a good sign.
To me thats a bad sign. Not on your part, good that you think drums. But on the part of the band youre listening to. Predictability is not a virtue in my book ... but then I may be reading a different book than most 
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2003, 04:03 PM » |
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but then I may be reading a different book than most  Don't be so sure, I have been reading that book for years. I hate predictable things!
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2003, 05:01 PM » |
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I played with a guitar player who didn't listen to music at all because he "didn't want to sound like anyone else"
pretty different huh?
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2003, 07:07 PM » |
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I dont think i sound like anyone really...on my best day i would hope to sound like Bonzo and Grohls lovechild...honestly i think i need to develop a bit more of a "sound"...one night after playing, the guy im playing guitar with now was talking to someone off stage and as i was walking up i heard him say "you know, he actually kinda reminds me of..." then they saw me and stopped talking...id give a dollar to hear the rest of that sentance...it probably was Meg White... 
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2003, 09:58 PM » |
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This reminds me of a strange instance . I was driving down the road and heard a song on the radio and it SCARED me because the person's voice sounded EXACTLY like mine, but more developed. Kind of like someone having the same snare drum, but they play it way better. I had to find out who it was because it was really creepy. Well, it turned out to be Norah Jones which is interesting because we're both Indian. (her dad is Ravi Shankar, the famous sitar player.) I think there exists a naturally inherent, scientific, cultural, genetic predisposition which can make voices sound alike. Just like if 2 drums are "made from the same wood". So 2 days ago I got all pumped up and recorded myself trying to sing one of her songs on my karaoke machine. It was horrendous! Thats when I learned science can only take you so far! 
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2003, 05:58 AM » |
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So 2 days ago I got all pumped up and recorded myself trying to sing one of her songs on my karaoke machine. It was horrendous! Thats when I learned science can only take you so far!  I wouldnt worry about that.. There is a lot of differences between Norahs emotional experience when she recorded it and you reading and singing it from a karaoke box.. I bet if you sang it live with your band where you know the song forwards and backwards you probably would nail it! I remember in the day when I was playing bass and my band did a recording session the adrenalin pump was out of this world and we just killed all of our parts! It was so kewl.. dw
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